-=> CHARLES ANGELICH wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 CA> 1237e174945b
 CA> tech



 CA> Hello Wayne -

 WC> Well I've infozip zip and unzip here, it was in /usr/bin in
 WC> Knoppix. I've downloaded the MultiMail binary for Linux.

 WC> Now to figure out how to receive files zmodem. There's an
 WC> sz and rz executable in there but I've not figured that out
 WC> yet.

 CA> Short version: 'sz'='send using zmodem' and 'rz'='receive
 CA> using zmdoem' Neither sz nor rz will 'negotiate' the opening of
 CA> a connection, they assume an existing connection and only do
 CA> the zmodem 'handshake'.

Yeah, was unable to figure out how to implement them
from within a telnet session.
Seems to me a script could be written to work around this
but that's way over my head just now.

 CA> The standard telnet will not give you a child process (comand
 CA> line) to call sz or rz and use the already opened 'port' that
 CA> connects you to the BBS.

Wasted a few minutes finding this out.

 CA> The ztelnet program _does_ have this
 CA> function built into it. :-)

 Now to find that critter.
 I've found it once but did not successfully download it because
 Knoppix defaults to so many _safe_ operating parameters.
 I had not realized I had to establish a persistent /home
 directory as it seems it defaults to that being loaded into
 RAM from newly established hard drive installations.

 /home now exists in /dev/hda2 which is ext2fs
 and I've got Multimail sitting there for when I get
 zmodem and set it up.

 CA> If I remember this correctly the 'sz' and 'rz' of ztelnet is
 CA> not a 'full' implementation of either protocol. The 'full'
 CA> versions offer many switches etc. and other protocols such as
 CA> xmodem and ymodem.

Not sure, been jumping around a lot of info files.
Need to find a gzip'ed system administrators guide and
use a utility to look at that file at my leisure on the local
drive.

 WC> Don't think I'll be buying that partition imaging program
 WC> either as the one that comes with Knoppix does FAT 16, 32,
 WC> ext2fs but unfortunately not ext3fs. It will restore an MBR
 WC> as well. Dead simple to use.

 CA> Whatever works for you.

Knoppix!!! Thanks to you I have it :-)
The partimage interface appears dead easy to use and the info
file clear enough.
Add the abbreviated Partition Magic that comes with Peanut Linux's
ZIP file and I'm able to manage, resize partitions and create compressed
image files with confidence.

 WC> I formatted /hda4 ext3fs but my /home directory sits on
 WC> /hda2 in a ext2fs.

 CA> I don't recall offhand what the differences are between ext2
 CA> and ext3 nor am I aware of which is the most 'common' format in
 CA> use at the present time.

 I believe ext2fs is the standard but ext3fs is suppose to be more
 tolorent to disruption.
 Best of both worlds here with the the standard knoppix Linux install
 in /hda4 with ext3fs and /home on ext2fs /hda2.

 Makes it far harder to screw up ;-)

 WC> Also found a Linux BBS that's freeware.

 CA> I wasn't aware that you wanted to install a BBS program.

Eventually.

 WC> Slow going but I'll get there :-)

 CA> You're a bit ahead of me on this.

Oh I would not say that as you've had ztelnet and ATP
up and running... I'm not there yet.

I'm a bit more fearless about cohabitating my operating systems
on one physical drive and resizing and fdisking partitions.
There's a Linux native partition resizing utility as well.

 CA> I'm waiting until I relocate
 CA> myself and my computers and the 'dust' settles before I tackle
 CA> any time consuming projects.

I'm pretty much bedridden so time's not the problem.
What I need to do after so long an unproductive stretch of time
is to reintroduce discipline into a routine where I set aside at
least two hours a day solely for focused study of this wonderful
Debian based release.

 
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