JH> Again, thanks for replying.  Joe Siegler also replied the other day.
JH> His answer was simply: "it won't."
JH>  
 
Yeah...that Joe guy can be really stubborn. What a buttmunch...whatch 
me get some message saying "You're message is off the topic. This is 
about apogee and apogee only since we are SOO great. Id sucks, we're 
outta here" But id is cooler than apogee. 
 
JEFF nelson
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Hello. I know lots of you love your Duke3d, but I just want to state my 
opinion. I think it doesn't have that "feel" as a classic like Doom 
does. It feels too light, not solid, kinda superficial (I guess). Doom 
has never worn off too me, but I've lost the novelty of Duke3d already. 
Even though I've had Doom on my PC ever since it came out, I still 
haven't lost that feeling I get when I play it. I just think Duke is 
still a doom clone with a bunch of new stuff added to make it feel 
different, some of the stuff is completely irrelevant...like having the 
enemies duck. What is the point? Since you don't really need to aim up 
and down it's the same thing as having them stand up, you just need hit 
tracking to do the work for you. And when I'm underwater, it doesn't 
feel like I'm really under water, it just feels like I've been slowed 
down a whole bunch. The ideas in Duke are pretty cool but not 
groundbreaking, i'll show you some ideas that I've come up with (not 
all are possible, maybe) to prove you don't need to be some creative 
person (although I DO think I am creative) to come up with some stuff.
 
1.) You could have timebombs that you set, that run on real-time. Not 
to kill enemies because then they would be worthless, but to blow up 
certain doors or blow up some objective point. That would be cool.
 
2.) Here is a basic set of weapons that every 3d game goes by, that 
I've noticed. Hand weapon, some sort of pistol that fires single shots, 
a shotgun or some gun that is more powerful than the pistol but 
(sometimes) slower, the rapid firing gun (chaingun), rocket launcher, 
the gun that is different from all the others (plasma rifle, uses 
different ammo sources), and the "destroy-all" gun.
 
3.) Most 3d games are an all-out bloodbath (which is good ) but has 
anyone rewarded the sly, stealthy, cunning players? Can't there be a 
way to go around problems rather than facing them directly? Why does 
every enemy in a 1000 foot radius have to hear you if you walk? 
 
4.) Have a partner or team mate that can follow orders on certain 
missions. Wouldn't it be cool to give orders like "secure this area". 
Having a millitary-esque feeling in a 3d game would rule.
 
5.) Infiltrating buildings to retrieve documents (or whatever) would be 
awesome. Imagine yourself eliminating the outer perimeter then breaking 
in the building searching for something. You've found it. Set off the 
alarm (accidentally I hope), now you are running from people and making 
a daring escape. Kinda like James Bond, that would also rule.
 
6.) Why does every enemy have to shoot you? Do they really know who you 
are ALL the time? Lots of times you arent visible but an enemy can see 
you anyways. What if you could have a disguise like a uniform and be 
able to walk past guards without having to shoot them? Undercover stuff 
would (wait for it) RULE.
 
7.) Silencers would be nice. Grappling hooks to climb up buildings 
would be cool. 
 
8.) Being able to interact with the enviroment would be nice, to a FULL 
scale here. Like in that little Quicke mart on level 2 of duke, 
shooting a rocket in there would cause the magazines to fly everywhere, 
the shelves to fall, etc.
 
9.) Being able to jump from a parachute onto your starting point (the 
roof for this matter) would be cool.
 
10.)I would like to be actually captured by an enemy (unlike the ending
on duke3d for level 2) and have to escape from the prison. Level 3 was 
pretty much like another level, I didn't really feel like "wow I must 
be smart because I escaped this place and they didn't even suspect a 
thing!" I felt more like "ok, there's the gun. Let's shoot some bad 
guys"
 
11.)This one is kinda outrageous and radical...but I would like it if 
you could capture someone "important" on the enemy's side. Then stick a 
gun on the person's back and say "ok! Now give me the yellow key or I 
blow his head off!" Then just blow his head off anyways.hehe
 
12.) Wouldn't it be cool to have a sniper rifle and find a high place 
to snipe? Then take out some bad guys without them finding you? Imagine 
having the little view through the scope with those cool lookin 
crosshairs on them and watching them fall without hearing them. Cool.
 
For all of you that read my message (novel) I would like to thank you 
for listening to some of my visions of 3d gaming. If you have any cool 
ideas I would like to hear them.
 
Jeff Nelson
 
 
--- TriToss (tm) Professional 1.0 - #217
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