SH> Rod, glad you've expanded on some of your ideas, i agree
SH> with your penultimate point about nos. of governments and
SH> upper houses, BUT, our NZ cousins who in my view had the
SH> best system ie unicameral, first past the post have jsut
SH> stuffed it up going proportional bicameral, so just goes
SH> to show the lumpen proles really wouldn't have a clue...

Yeah, agree entirely, quite a bizarre change IMO, take what
I thought was one of the best working parliamentary democratic
systems around and stuff it up.

And its not as if they didnt have a close example of a complete
abortion, the ACT proportional representation system. Quite pathetic.

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