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to: TOM WALKER
from: CHARLES ANGELICH
date: 2003-12-23 19:54:00
subject: Carol of the Bells

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Hello Tom - 

TW>>> Thanks. I wil try to see if I can download and analize in
TW>>> the next day or so and get back to you. 

->> I uploaded a slightly better version of all three files
->> earlier today. Hopefully I was able to get these online
->> before you downloaded them. ;-) 

TW> I tried once in the Morning and once in the After nboon on
TW> Monday and got a "Page NOT error 404 for both the .wav,
TW> Which my POTS line) would never complete downloading, And
TW> the .mp3 address. 

There is a problem with the '.wav' I didn't foresee. My browser
thinks it's supposed to play with the webpage and 'silently'
downloads the file without offering the option to save it to
disk or any notification other than the activity in the
tool-tray to let me know it's actually getting the '.wav' for
me. LOL 

Tried the http://www.undercoverdesign.com/dosghost/music/
carolofthebells_2_40kbps.mp3 

URL and _that_ one does display an onscreen progress bar and
loads and plays the file in WinAmp (which isn't so great really
since I wanted you to be able to 'save' the file). 

I have created a webpage to allow the right click for you. ;-) 

http://www.undercoverdesign.com/
dosghost/dos/xmas_music.htm

TW> The streaming audio clip worked. But it only confused me.
TW> Some of it is very good but what I rembember is not really
TW> there. It almost sounds like now what I think I was hearing
TW> was a composite of a Real Bell and a Tube type chime. 

Could've been. :-) 

When a bell is used as a musical instrument it is confusing
IMO. There are many variations on what composes a 'bell'. There
are cast iron, brass, copper, steel, and even wooden bells.
There are a variety of shapes and sizes for the 'clapper'. Some
are struck externally and have no clapper. It's almost
infinitely variable. 

TW> I am totaly ignorant of Music so cannot really explain what
TW> is missing. 

Attack is the very first milliseconds of sound when the bell is
'struck'. The Roland bell soundfonts seem a bit high-pitched
(to me) at the 'attack' and I was disappointed with that.
Sounds as though all of the bells had iron 'clappers'. 

The higher notes give a sound of a small thin walled bell
rather than the richer sound of cast brass bells. 

Some of this I can 'massage' within the WAV editor using reverb
and even echo if need be which I _did_ do to the second version
of this particular recording. 

TW> Thanks much for yuor efforts and I will try a couple of
TW> more times after you read this to download the .mp3 again. 

The above webpage URL should make this doable for you. :-) 

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