Hi Mark,

> agreed... and at some point, most of them will remove old, outdated or
> duplicate files... one of the annoyances that i've felt with one of the games
>distribution areas is that the filenames are seemingly random in nature... and
> there's many that are simply newer versions...

> G1BCH522.ZIP  4355321 29-Aug-2003
> CHAMPIONSHIP CRIBBAGE PRO FOR WINDOWS
> 5.22 - ShareWare Discover world-class

> G1ECH522.ZIP  4345280 05-Sep-2003
> CHAMPIONSHIP CRIBBAGE PRO 5.22 -
> ShareWare Discover world-class card

>so, are they the same or no? at this time, i only have two of these... numerou
>others that are "duplicated" out the same way but they are
hard to detect othe
>than by their descriptions... mind you, i'm not complaining or ranting... just
> discussing...

Yes, I remember others mentioning this to the gamesnet fellow.. I think it
was a program he wrote that generated the filenames.. not sure about that
though.

> i finally resorted to setting allfix to maintain most of my files areas and
>letting it delete files that are over X days old... that got me in a bind in a
>few instances as i let it handle some areas that it completely wiped out that
> really didn't want it handling in the first place...

Ouch.. that can be really painful.. but not as painful as the day I typed
something like this in the Utilnet directory here:  del somefile.zip * Darn
linux did just what I told it to do, too 


> too late by the time i
> noticed it and then it took me forever and a day to recover the files i had
> lost if i was able to locate them again...

Sure, know what that's like.. I don't use bbbs' delete by age feature
either.. just for that reason.

> that's like the old RA FDN that ronnie toth maintained... i never really got
>fully tied in to it and have been unable to find any site that carries it that
>(still) has the complete library...

I know someone who _had_ it.. I'm not sure if he still does, or if he's
anywhere around these days.. He's in England.. last I heard from him, he
was working in Japan.. he might be back by now .. I'll let you
know what I find out.

>i would love to locate it/them and get the
> on my site for historical purposes, if nothing else... its possible that i

I can understand that..

> might even be able to restart that FDN... i was asked way back after ronnie
> passed but was not really able to at that time...

That would be so great Mark :)

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>> Filebone.na, and Filebone.no were replaced with one file:
>> filegate.zxx... just one file.

> ahh...

Sent it out tonight, btw, along with some other filegate info stuff..
you'll find them in the FG_WORF file echo, btw..

>> I'll be doing some trimming .. a shame to see gamesnet and
>> fs gone :(  They were really popular..

> i didn't realise it but that two examples i gave above? they were from
> Gamesnet: CARDS... is FS the flight simulator area?

Yep :)

> if so, i've not received
> any files in there in a long time... long enough for allfix to have purged it
> completely ;-(

I'd say that's a broken link.. well, I'd have to look at the directories
here to see when the last files in that area were hatched.. it might have
been a while.. lemme look.. (not that it matters now :()  Ok, last file in
g_card was Dec. 9th, 2003...

Here's the list of recent files:
 1564023 Dec  4 01:25 G9ACR840.ZIP*
 2516748 Dec  4 01:25 G9AMYS20.ZIP
 1683221 Dec  4 01:25 GA0GR143.ZIP
 1705292 Dec  4 01:26 G80R5001.ZIP
 2463111 Dec  6 23:12 GCDV1058.ZIP
 1732003 Dec  6 23:12 GEACH143.ZIP
  852545 Dec  6 23:13 GFBCRT10.ZIP
  841016 Dec  6 23:13 GE4BLC10.ZIP
 1729765 Dec  6 23:13 GDBPN143.ZIP
 1458485 Dec  6 23:14 GD0BVS12.ZIP
 3983623 Dec  6 23:14 GCDS2003.ZIP
 2542832 Dec  9 14:45 NF6BLT11.ZIP

But maybe allfix thinks a month is a long time 

>> I'm still hoping some game-minded individual who knows where
>> these file live, will approach me 

> maybe MB can pass the torch on to another and let them know where he gets the
> files from?

I asked him to send me any info he had like that.. no response yet.. he may
still answer.. I know he's really tied up with work right now.

>> There's an info packet at http
>> ://www.filegate.net/info/fdninfo.zip for those thinking of
>> starting an fdn.. and there an FAQ that I wrote, FILEGATE.FAQ
>> that answers a lot of questions about distribution, and then,
>> there's our policy, FGPOL006.TXT. :)  I believe I include all
>> of those files in fginfo.zip.

> i'll drop by and get hold of it...

Thrilling reading, no? 

>> I've been asked if there is a tutorial for file distribution..
>> the closest I've come to that is at
>> http://www.filegate.net/zone1/filehelp.htm ... it's by no
>> means complete.. but it's a start :(

> i hear that... maybe i'll take a look at it, too and see what i can offer...

I think anything will be good :) :) It's hard to remember much of what I
knew of Allfix.. the last time I worked with it was when I was working with
Adam Strack for USR's system 

>> Yes, ftsc, fd, and others were in the original (and now
>> defunct) SDS FDN.  I still have it listed, and I still have
>> all the files (I always hope ).  The ftsc _does_ use that
>> file echo to release new files, as you know, but that's the
>> only area that is active.  What it needs now are people who
>> will commit to releasing new versions of software in that FDN,
>> such as perhaps the new Linux Maximus port, etc. etc. :)

>right, i knew that the FTSC area is active... i am/was the main link between Z
>and Z2 for all the FTSC areas but it seems that things have changed a bit... m
>system is still attempting to connect with joho's and mat's system(s) but they
> are both listed as DOWN in the nodelist ;-( they were the other end of the
> link...

What a drag.. :( :(

Joho was around two years ago.. he sent me a note when I was first elected Z1C
:)  I hope he's not truly gone..

Take care,
Janis

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