BG> The Ruger has a 10-shot rotary magazine, and fires a 40g .22
 BG> projectile at an approximate velocity of 1600fps.

  A rotary magazine? I've never heard of such a thing! Like to old
Thompson submachine gun? Is that .22 long or something like a Hornet?
I'ts a long time since I went shooting.

 BG> My Zs are subsonic, 25g at less than 1000fps.

  Yair... that's 1/4 the energy. It makes a huge differecne.

 BG> The SLR has a 20-shot magazine, and the 7.62mm NATO round fires
 BG> a 220g bullet at 2760fps. Quite a difference in firepower,
 BG> wouldn't you say? 

  Yes... it's 16x the energy, but even so, the .22 auto would be the
weapon of choice for a drive-by shooting. At close range, a .22 is the
weapon of choice for the Mafia, for instance. The bullet stays in
there, and is quite as lethal as a 76mm at a thousand yards.

 BL> Harmless? I don't think so.

 BG> Oi, I didn't use that word. NO gun is harmless, but the .22 IS
 BG> lowly.

  In an urban situation, I think I'd rather face a loony with a 303
than a hoon with a 22 semiautomatic.

 BL> The sane ones will turn in their guns anyway, and the loonies
 BL> won't.

 BG> Quite so. I strongly suspect that the only people who surrender
 BG> guns will be the very ones who are probably sane (or decent)
 BG> enough to own them. 

  Yair. What we'll end up so the only ones with dangerous weapons are
dangeroous loonies.

 BL> Yair - that's the gun-lobby line.

 BG> It's my line too, and I'm neither anti nor pro (although I'd
 BG> flatly refuse to hand in my miserable 5-shot bolt-action .22 if
 BG> the law said I had to). 

  The weapon of choice for the serious cat-shooter...

  I find it difficult to understand the problem. In my day, we used
303s because the ammunition was cheap, and when it ran out and FN SLR
took over we swapped to 0.308... but no one used the FN! In the 60s it
was just a cheap rifle and cheap ammo that drove us. Bolt-action was
preferred. A geniune hunter, or a shooter, is not going to need an
SLR.

 BL> The plain fact remains that there is absoutely no need for an
 BL> SLR except by the Army and SWAT squads. 

 BG> Or, under certain circumstances, civilians in remote areas, and
 BG> land-owners. 

  I don't think so even then. As I understand it, the preferred pig
option is a .357 at close range, and anything that requires aim is
better done with a bolt action. But the problem is not in the bush
anyway, as long as possession is limited to land owners and
professional hunters. No one expects to get rid of all SLR's - just
reduce the numbers somewhat.

 BL> At last we are getting rid of the gun mentality. We need the
 BL> American gun culture like we need an extra dick.

 BG> Dunno, I think I'd be quite partial to an extra dick...

  ROFL! Where would you put it? You'd have to wear a hat.

Regards,
Bob
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