Hello Steven.

21 Nov 02 00:58, you wrote to Janis Kracht:

 JK>> I think there's just no excuse for making an internet node Pvt
 JK>> when he or she is online and reachabe 24/7 just like a pots node.

 SH> But what do we do then?  Use the "HOLD" kludge in
FTS5000/1 or use the
 SH> "000-..." kludge in the telephone field?  Or will
"-Unpublished-" in
 SH> the telephone field compile if the "Pvt" flag is not used?

If you use Hold, you're again putting two meanings on one flag, just as the
Pvt kludge does; because a Hold system is supposed to be one in which all
netmail is routed to it's host. Obviously, if a IP based system is 24/7,
that situation is undesirable, and so again, IP mailers would be forced to
ignore the proper use of a nodelist flag.

-Unpublished- without Pvt, in my experience with SkyNet, will work well for
the end nodes' nodelist compilers, but unfortunately it will cause MakeNL
and other nodelist processors to barf, so until we get new nodelist
processors that can handle it, it's also out. (Incidently, if we can get
new nodelist processors to work with this, it /may/ be possible to list the
FQDN in the phone number field, like so: -madmail.ods.org- or like
-madmail-ods-org-. It would have to be tested, but if it worked, it would
solve a lot of problems..)

That leaves 000-*. While not the best possible kludge, it's the best option
that we /currently/ have. It's already been used extensively for those with
Static IP's, and has been proven to not cause any real trouble for others.
in conjunction with the ,300, baud listing, it had been proven very
effective in preventing POTS mailers from dialing IP based systems. The
only need is for dynamic DNS systems to prevent other systems that may be
looking for a static IP number in that field from attempting to connect to
a wrong IP number, and 000-000-000-0000 (or 000-000-000-000-000) will do
that nicely.


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