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to: John Beamish
from: Rich
date: 2004-07-15 09:21:14
subject: Re: openbsd change testing

From: "Rich" 

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   It may not be economical if testing is simply not something that =
these folks care about.  The actual change is a tiny part of releasing = an update.

Rich

  "John Beamish"  wrote in message =
news:40f69bc7{at}w3.nls.net...
  (I'm not running Linux.)

  I find that statement "economical with the truth".  Assume that you =
know
  which module to go to.  Check it out, make the change, check it in,
  recompile it, do regression testing (assume the change works and =
doesn't
  break anything), update module documentation, update changelog, update
  bugtracking.   In any serious environment, that's a day's work -- not =
an
  hour.

  What happens next?  Are Linux users expected to d/l the recompiled =
module or
  is there a process to compare the previous version with the new =
version and
  generate some kind of hex patch which gets downloaded and applied?  Or =
what?

  Thanks.

  "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message

  > Security information moves very fast in cracker circles. On the =
other
  > hand, our experience is that coding and releasing of proper security
  > fixes typically requires about an hour of work -- very fast fix
  > turnaround is possible. Thus we think that full disclosure helps the
  > people who really care about security."
  >
  >
  > etc.
  >
  > Adam


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Rich
 

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Adam

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