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from: Felix Miata
date: 2004-07-31 17:29:36
subject: Re: New computer OS questions

Alan Beagley wrote:
 
> I have an Asus P3V4X, with which I have been unable to use the second
> channel of my LSILogic-chipped Tekram SCSI card with OS/2; the
> combination works fine with Windozze. The Aproblem was in the BIOS, I
> understand, rather than in the hardware.

IOW, it should be fixable, but responsibility to fix is shunned by Asus.
 
> I have heard of no problems with more recent Asus boards, but I did read
> of a similar problem with Abit boards, and Abit refused to cooperate.
 
> What are you recommending for an OS/2 / eCS-friendly Pentium motherboard?

Several months ago I tried a Soyo Dragon KT400 (AMD 2100+). It worked
with eCS OK only until I tried to use LSI SCSI, then ran into resource
sharing problems and gave up trying, putting it into a windoze only
system. http://www.soyousa.com/products/proddesc.php?id=185

This I bought several months ago, tested briefly with eCS, then sold to
my sister for windoze:
http://www.giga-byte.com/MotherBoard/Products/Products_Spec_GA-8IPE1000%20Pro%20(Rev%202.0).htm
It had a broken BIOS when I got it, but a flash upgrade fixed it.
http://www.computergate.com/products/item.cfm?prodcd=B8G8IPE1P

For a purely silly reason, I replaced it with:
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/techspec.php?categories=1&model=147
which I'm running 1.1 FP4 on now. I too have gotten no response from
Abit on LSI trouble, which a flash to the latest BIOS did not help. With
the HBA in the system, no boot from anything except floppy unless there
is a HD on a SCSI bus.
http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/tmp/RESUL402.HTML
http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/tmp/RESUL403.HTML
Overall, the benchmarks on the Giga were better than on this, but not on
a scale that should matter to anyone who isn't interested in
overclocking and the like.
http://www.computergate.com/products/item.cfm?prodcd=B8BAI7

On neither of the 865PE/ICH5 boards did I try the built in audio. On the
Giga, I didn't try the built in NIC either, but as I understand its
built in NIC works with the same Intel Pro100 driver I use in several
boxes now.

>From my observation and experience, OS/2 really isn't picky about basic
hardware. As long as you are using nothing in any PCI slots, it will
boot and run. The complications happen when you want to use more than a
basic complement of add on devices, and one or more don't have drivers
or play nice or the MOBO BIOS can't properly manage resources.

Modern winderz gets around the resource problem in modern hardware by
using more than 16 interrupts. AFAIK, OS/2 can't do that (yet), and so
can get hung trapping or halting trying to boot with more than X amount
of devices to allocate resources for.

If I was buying today, I'd probably get another Giga like sis has, or
http://usa.aopen.com/products/mb/AX4SPE-UN.htm. If I had more shopping
time, I'd probably go up a generation in Intel chipset, maybe to
http://www.tyan.com/products/html/trinityi875p_spec.html or
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/detail_spec/product_detail.asp?model=875P_NEO-FISR.

Nowadays, vendor and manufacturer support is at least as important as
the specs.
-- 
"If you are wise, your wisdom will reward you;"        Proverbs 9:12 NIV

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409

Felix Miata  ***  http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/



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