From: Adam Flinton 

Ellen K. wrote:
> Oh please.
>
> No matter how much you test, there will still be bugs in the initial
> release.
>

In which case there will always be bugs in every release so why bother to test?

Adam

> On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:11:36 +0100, Adam Flinton
>  wrote in message :
>
>
>>Rich wrote:
>>
>>
>>>   It may not be economical if testing is simply not something that
>>>these folks care about.  The actual change is a tiny part of releasing
>>>an update.
>>>
>>
>>Indeed. MS have to be masters of major updates as they have to do it all
>>the time.
>>
>>However wrt testing the best time & place to do that is before it
>>becomes part of the product & not after it's been released which is what
>>the openbsd people tend towards vs the marketing driven cycle in
>>evidence wrt MSOS'es.
>>
>>Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Rich
>>>
>>>
>>>    "John Beamish"  wrote in message
>>>    news:40f69bc7{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>    (I'm not running Linux.)
>>>
>>>    I find that statement "economical with the
truth".  Assume that you know
>>>    which module to go to.  Check it out, make the change, check it in,
>>>    recompile it, do regression testing (assume the change
works and doesn't
>>>    break anything), update module documentation, update
changelog, update
>>>    bugtracking.   In any serious environment, that's a day's
work -- not an
>>>    hour.
>>>
>>>    What happens next?  Are Linux users expected to d/l the recompiled
>>>    module or
>>>    is there a process to compare the previous version with the new
>>>    version and
>>>    generate some kind of hex patch which gets downloaded and applied?
>>>    Or what?
>>>
>>>    Thanks.
>>>
>>>    "Adam Flinton" >>    > wrote in message
>>>
>>>     > Security information moves very fast in cracker
circles. On the other
>>>     > hand, our experience is that coding and releasing of
proper security
>>>     > fixes typically requires about an hour of work -- very fast fix
>>>     > turnaround is possible. Thus we think that full
disclosure helps the
>>>     > people who really care about security."
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > etc.
>>>     >
>>>     > Adam
>>>
>
>

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