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to: JEFF GUERDAT
from: CHARLES SCAGLIONE
date: 1997-11-11 21:59:00
subject: RAS ADMIN

JEFF GUERDAT wrote to CHARLES SCAGLIONE about RAS ADMIN
JG>CS>Whenever I click on Remote Access Admin, the dialer appears and
JG>CS>asks if I wish to dial a remote network.  If I respond yes, it
JG>CS>will then attempt to dial my ISP.  If my response is no, the
JG>CS>dialog will close.  In either event, I'm unable to get to the
JG>CS>Remote Access Admin options.
JG>One question - why are you trying to run it?  RAS Admin is a tool to
JG>administer help remote domain RAS access (altho it certainly can be
JG>administer used to the local machine).  I've never had use of it
JG>since all I've ever done is to add dialup permissions to users, which
JG>can be done from the user manager.
I'm about to attempt to setup a small network at home consisting of 3 
machines.  Mine being the server using NT WS and the other 2 running 
Win95.  I also would like to be able to dial into my NT machine at home 
when I'm out of town.
I know when I first installed NTWS 4.0, the option to bring up Remote 
Access Admin was working even though I had no reason to use it.
JG>One use is to start/stop RAS, which you can do by using the Services
JG>control panel.
I was able to do that through the Services Option in Control Panel.
JG>CS>Someone from an MS NT newsgroup suggested I should install the MS
JG>CS>Loopback adapter from Control Panel Networks.  He stated that this
JG>CS>might "fool" the system into thinking I was connected to a
JG>CS>network.  I did attempt to install the adapter, but while doing
JG>CS>so, another problem emerged.
JG>CS>The adapter installation asked me for an IP address.  No address,
JG>CS>no installation.  I tried entering the IP address of my ISP, and
JG>CS>the corresponding Netmask.  The installation program took it and
JG>CS>installed the adapter.  However....
JG>You can add ONLY the Microsoft Loopback adapter (designed for RAS
JG>connections), which won't ask for such info.  I've also used a bogus
JG>card to do the same thing but that's overkill.
OK, I can understand that.
JG>CS>The next time I dialed my ISP, it very nicely put me into a loop
JG>CS>and I never could get on the WEB. (although I was connected to my
JG>CS>ISP)  Still couldn't access the RAS admin options.
JG>Probably due to the use of the ISP IP address - the system is
JG>confused about which one to use to contact, and probably defaults to
JG>the card, which, of course, has no way of contacting the real world.
JG>Use a bogus address that won't be routed, such as 10.0.2.15.
I'll try that and see if it works.
JG>CS>I guess my question is - Can I get at the RAS admin options
JG>CS>without being on a valid network?  And, is that normal?  Can I
JG>CS>make up an IP and Netmask address for myself to use?
JG>NT Help provides this:
JG>Administering RAS Servers
JG>Use Remote Access Admin to administer RAS servers and set permissions
JG>for RAS users. On a Windows NT Workstation computer, a RAS server
JG>dial-up supports only one connection. On a Windows NT Server
JG>dial-up computer, a RAS server supports 256 connections.
JG>If you're going to connect to a machine (the local machine, in this
JG>case), use the UNC name (mine is \\AUTOX-PC) while domains are simply
JG>the domain name.
JG>Does any of this help?
Yes it does.  Actually this helped me to track it down.  When I upgraded 
the machine from an Intel P5-133 to a P5-200 MMX, I changed the name of 
the domain.  (I had forgotten that I did that.)  When I discovered the 
domain name was different from the connection name it (RAS) was trying 
to contact, I changed the names to match.  Since I've done that, I can 
again get at the options in Remote Access Admin without the dialer 
trying to dial a connection.
BTW, I had to get into the Registry to change the names to match.  I 
couldn't find any other way to do it.
Although I have many years of Computer experience (military and civilian 
jobs) I'm very "uneducated" regarding networks.  I guess I need to bone 
up.
Thanks for your help.
charles.scaglione@why.net
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