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echo: locsysop
to: Bill Grimsley
from: Brenton Vettoretti
date: 1996-05-19 13:32:44
subject: modem

Hi Bill,

BG> There will be an S-register which disables V.8 CI tones (not V.8
BG> altogether, which is indeed a necessary part of V.34).  Find it,
BG> and USE it.  :)
BV> Not in a Banksia there ain't.
BG> Did you actually ring and ask if it's possible to disable them with an
BG> undocumented register?  I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.

Yep. I asked. I was told.

BV> No doubt I'll have to change it again when you change modems.
BG> Nope, you can safely leave them disabled.  Most people do anyway.
BV> The only way is through the ATD^T string.
BG> No big deal I guess, but it would be nice to make it a permanent change.

Yeah, that was my feeling. It's the things like that which I feel
let Banksia down a bit. Their stuff works, but sometimes you've just
got to close your eyes to some of their "oversights"/features.

BV> Jeez, you've got no idea how happy I am that you don't fuck-around
BV> with anything unless you have a complete, detailed understanding of
BV> exactly what it is you are doing.
BG> :)
BV> Fair-dinkum. What a fuckwit. I've been staying out of this because I
BV> could see that it was going to turn stupid.
BG> Sorry, but it turned stupid a couple of months ago.  :)

Really ? I hadn't noticed :)

BV> For Christs sake, all the local modems are shit. Spirits are junk and
BV> there ain't much of an alternative. Hayes are overpriced and probably
BV> junk too, the Motorolas might be okay, I'm not sure.
BG> The low-end Motorola Lifestyle V.34 only (no V.FC) isn't too bad, but
BG> not as good as you'd expect, although the Microcom Deskporte Fast+ is
BG> apparently extremely good, albeit at a cost of $300 more than the Courier. 
BG> Optima isn't too bad either, but their low-end Accura is cheap and nasty
BG> shit.

That is the problem, when you've got to remember that manufacturer
makes a decent X but the Y is stuffed. That's why I will use Banskia
when cost is a factor and USR when cost isn't as important as the
job to be done. It makes my life a lot simpler.

BV> I just can't believe all the shit he's going through. Fucking
BV> around with this setting, that setting, reading this level, that
BV> level, picking every fucking little gnat he can find, yet he hasn't
BV> got the faintest fucking idea what the hell he is looking at.
BV> He's lost the plot and forgotten what the fuck he was trying to do
BV> in the first place.
BG> A "reliable" board, you mean?  True, it's been anything but.

Yes. Now look at what he's doing with his upgrade. He knows 1/10th
of fuck all about hardware, then he buys the cheapest shit possible
from a bloke who doesn't even know the difference between 60-70ns RAM
and wonders why he has problems. Og. Hang-on. I forgot. He has Rod
giving him advice from Griffith, so everything will be alright :)

BV> Of the local brands, the Banksia is the best and reasonably priced too.
BG> Trouble is, they make at least 3 completely different V.34 models, the
BG> cheapest one being Rockwell, the dearer ones being rebadged Motorolas
BG> and Microcoms.

No they don't. They *ship* three models. They only make one model.
The MyFastModem v.34, which uses the Rockwell chipset but it works.
You're hang-up with Rockwell chipsets is unjustified Bill. It's the
implementation, not the chipset.

BV> That's why I just bought one on impulse. They're as good as you're going
BV> to get without moving to a USR. Sure, they might have some glitches,
BV> like no S-Register to turn off the CI tones,
BV> the port rate is always locked to the last AT command.
BG> Actually locked, or autobauds on AT ?  That just doesn't sound right.
BG> Or maybe you're just taking the piss...  :)

Can't say that I've been bothered to find out. It works.
What more do I need to know ?

Sorry if it sounds like I'm being flippant Bill, but it's the truth.
It works and with my workload, I don't have the time or inclination
to fuckaround with stuff that works. If it don't work, then I'll
start to screw with it.

BV> But, it works and pretty well too.
BG> Why not swap it with Paul's NetComm then?  :)

Yeah sure Bill. In Paul's dreams.

Regards, Brenton
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