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to: Bill Grimsley
from: Randall Lane
date: 1996-05-19 13:25:32
subject: USR 28.8 Modems

Hello there Bill ....



 BG> Whether or not you believe that Oswald killed Kennedy, the

 BG> Warren Commission proved beyond any doubt that it was possible for

 BG> Oswald to chamber and fire three rounds in five seconds, ALL with

 BG> extreme accuracy, from his prehistoric Mannlicher Carcano rifle.

 BG> That can logically be extended to 36 aimed shots per minute, or 360

 BG> shots in just 10 minutes. Deduct maybe 25% of that total for



And that is not allowing for the 50% misfires from these old beasts

either!! Not a rifle to rely on IME.



 BG>

BL>> the .22. I wouldn't kill 35, but I'd go close to a dozen.

BL>> Someone would jumnp me while I was working the bolt on the old 303.



 BG> Next time you visit the library, have a look at one of the

 BG> ballistics manuals, compare the velocity and energy figures between

 BG> a .22 and a 7.62mm, then come back and tell me that you'd still

 BG> prefer the .22 for a mass slaughter.



Reminds me of when I was talking to a New York cop in the Police Club

here once (they were over on some exchange promo) and he was saying all

the cops pissed off their .38 pistols as, and I quote, "you can't stop a

6'4" nigger if he's doped up and violent, with a pop gun like a .38."





BG>> That actually varies with the terrain. In scrubby country

BG>> where visibility is somewhat limited (say 50m or less), a 12g pump

BG>> shotgun is the preferred choice (and is what I once specifically

                    ^^^^^^^^^

And sanest IMO.



BG>> use on pigs), although the professionals out around St George and

BG>> Goondiwindi seem to prefer 7.62mm SLRs or the Ruger .44 magnums

BG>> (some prefer this calibre as they can use the same cartridges in

BG>> both their rifles and revolvers). It's definitely a regional thing

BG>> though.



Used to hunt them on foot with a mate with a .44 Magnum Winchester

lever. Bloody good punch out to ~100yards, then a rapid fall away.



BL>> I went shooting pigs at Mooree in swampy scrub like you said,

BL>> and the local publican used an old 303 (in the 60s)



 BG> Probably because ex-WWII Lee-Enfield SLMEs were only a couple

 BG> of quid each then, and ex-military ammo was dirt cheap too.



And as common as arseholes.



BL>> plus a 357 you could hardly lift, let alone fire.



 BG> Might have been an old Webley, but they were generally .45

 BG> calibre.



Unwieldy old cannons, too.



BL>> I stayed well out of it! I reckoned the shooters and their dogs

BL>> were more

BL>> dangerous than the pigs. No one had a shotgun, but they had

BL>> everything else. It was a funny weekend.



 BG> Sounds hilarious. :)



Makes you wish you were there, doesn't it!! :-)



Randall             Sunday, 19 May 1996, 13:39.

        InterNet   : laner{at}madhouse.brisnet.org.au





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