Salutatio Relatif!
03-Apr-98, Relatif Tuinn wrote to Richard Meic
          Subject: Creationism
 RT> Richard Meic on "Creationism" with Joe Martin...
 RT>>>> As you'll inevitably just refuse to except any evolutionist
 RT>>>> argument, then maybe you'd like to provide some evidence for
 RT>>>> the creationist argument instead
 JM>>> Don't hold your breath... He'll just tell you your a Nazi moron
 JM>>> because you don't accept the Bible as the literal word of god.
 RM>> Even though it was written by "HUMANS", as fallible as any human.
 RT> They were taking dictation.
From what,... their minds or a god?
 RM>> I would like to see the *evidence* that an omnipotent being wrote
 RM>> the Wholly Babble him/her/it self.
 RT> Idiot
Not "idiot", willfully ignorant perhaps, in desperate need of, but not
necessarily "idiot".  One cannot put the label "idiot" on all 
fundies,... that too would be an ignorant assumption.
 RT> fundies will tell you that the wholly babble is evidence of
 RT> that, not even realising the circularity of their logic
                                                     
Perhaps many of them do realize it, but quickly justify it for 
themselves in order to fulfil a need for a god?
 RM>> I suppose it is just a little too much to swallow in this age.
 RT> Maybe there is a new enlightenment dawning. I hope so as then we
 RT> can put all the gods of the world to rest and get rid of THE major
 RT> cause of wars
Gods have become very _personal_.  I once thought that gods and religion
may no longer be needed in the far future, but that may not be very
accurate.  With our existence being linear, it is impossible to tell -
until we get there.  I also think there is a new age dawning, and
perhaps that age may consist of nature based religions becoming
prevalent, because the big issue at the top of our minds is how will our
planet (all living organisms) survive with all the damage we are
causing.  Each new age is borne out of the old in some way, borne out of
the needs of the old.  In short, "needs" dictate change.
 Dicere...
 email address (vrmeic@nucleus.com)
Richard Meic
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