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to: Rich
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2004-07-15 18:11:36
subject: Re: openbsd change testing

From: Adam Flinton 

Rich wrote:

>    It may not be economical if testing is simply not something that
> these folks care about.  The actual change is a tiny part of releasing
> an update.
>

Indeed. MS have to be masters of major updates as they have to do it all the time.

However wrt testing the best time & place to do that is before it
becomes part of the product & not after it's been released which is
what the openbsd people tend towards vs the marketing driven cycle in
evidence wrt MSOS'es.

Adam




> Rich
>
>
>     "John Beamish" 
wrote in message
>     news:40f69bc7{at}w3.nls.net...
>     (I'm not running Linux.)
>
>     I find that statement "economical with the truth". 
Assume that you know
>     which module to go to.  Check it out, make the change, check it in,
>     recompile it, do regression testing (assume the change works and doesn't
>     break anything), update module documentation, update changelog, update
>     bugtracking.   In any serious environment, that's a day's work -- not an
>     hour.
>
>     What happens next?  Are Linux users expected to d/l the recompiled
>     module or
>     is there a process to compare the previous version with the new
>     version and
>     generate some kind of hex patch which gets downloaded and applied?
>     Or what?
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     "Adam Flinton"      > wrote in message
>
>      > Security information moves very fast in cracker circles. On the other
>      > hand, our experience is that coding and releasing of proper security
>      > fixes typically requires about an hour of work -- very fast fix
>      > turnaround is possible. Thus we think that full disclosure helps the
>      > people who really care about security."
>      >
>      >
>      > etc.
>      >
>      > Adam
>

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