@@> On Apr 01-98 Day Brown wrote to David Martorana
 @@> on Stoic Dionysianism
 
 
 DB> Komos was not held every week, so lots of time was available between
 DB> psychedelic experiences to reason out a bit of substantive truth.
 
 DB> I am saying that Dionysianism postulated as necessary for a fuller
 DB> life and the understanding of it, the use of psycedelics.  This is
 DB> also part of the aim of Stoicism, to examine existance, and one of
 DB> the ways of doing that, is a seasonal 'trip' or sabbatical.  Both,
 DB> IMO, present a highest ethical standard of any organized religion,
 DB> or political system.
 
 DB> My motivation is: to do the right thing, at the right time,
 DB> in the right way, for the right reasons.  ONLY Stoicism and
 DB> Dionysianism, [which lead to the works of Zeno, Plato, Aristotle,
 DB> Epictetus, and Marcus Aurelius] provide the ethical basis to see
 DB> what is.  I find it is the happiest way to live- as they suggested.
 
  .......Understand!  ...reasoned balance....search...happy....
 
   You have developed a working reality package that fits both your
   practical goals and intellect. Might take me some time to achieve
   anything near so (if ever)!
 
   There was a once when I would have coveted "an evolutionary moment",
   but now realize it an unlikelihood for me to achieve. Not only will
   I not be able to swipe a tomato from the garden, I never even found
   where the garden was .
 
   What I HAVE learned is how slow it is to pick up on the "Zenos",
   "Platos", "Aristotles", Epictetuses, (g> and Aureliuses, later in
   life. Much of what I read sort of "zops through" putting me in the
   awkward position of reading "SOMEONE ELSE's take" to explains what
   I've been reading, like T.Z. Lavine, who herself can reduce one such
   as Plato down to my own levels of comprehension and spans of
   attention. The only company I ever keep identifying with are the
   "everyday practical" Sophists, though I can see Stoicism, with its
   "interior freedom claim"  as a pleasant, if distant, goal to reach
   for. Even if I would prefer to be a Stoic, I am saddled heavy with a
   natural-natural "who I really am" Sophist heart"). 
 
 I have listened carefully to all the things you've said (with some
 disagreement along your somewhat intolerant "Aryan" tangents) and
 would place your "objective insights" in reference as I READ ON.
 You are one of the very few that actually "WORKS" philosophy as an
 everyday life engine.....
 
 Looking forward to "each your reach"             ......Many Thanks
 
                           ((((^?))))
                           ... QQ ... Dave
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