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to: RICHARD TOWN
from: DAVID BOWERMAN
date: 1998-02-17 17:12:00
subject: Negociations (SP)

Richard Town wrote in a message to David Bowerman:
 RT> Don't think I've said any of the above.  Rather I've bemoaned the
 RT> lack of interop.  I would've thought you, and Craig, and others
 RT> would've joined me in whinging about lack of interop too.  But
 RT> instead you've chosen to attempt polarisation of views -- which
 RT> does no good for future users at all 
Richard, Lucent and 3Com are committed to doing interop testing.  For that 
matter so are ZyXEL.  The only major name missing from the list is Rockwell.  
Lucent and 3Com are both setting up their own servers to allow any 
manufacturer to call in to test their client implementations.  3Com and 
Lucent will also be calling other manufacturer's servers with their clients.
 
 DB> But then, I mustn't forget that to you, anything screwed up by
 DB> Rockwell is the fault of other folks for not being able to handle
 DB> Rockwell's screwups.
 RT> 
 RT> And still there's nothing about USR's once fabled V34 interop... 
 DB> Harping on USR's not keeping up with Rockwell's screwup of the week
 DB> again?
 RT> By deliberately only supporting one camp, and choosing to attack
 RT> any other supporters you are as guilty as the "suits" who care damn
 RT> all about the product, but only the bottom line.
Richard, you spend your time dumping on USR and expect us to mistake you for 
an "impartial" observer?  I haven't seen one message from you commenting on 
Rockwell's screwups as being the cause of that lack on interoperability 
though Craig Ford, for one, has posted the relevant data on several 
occasions.  Where are your messages dumping on Rockwell for screwing up their 
handshaking?  Oh, yeah, that's USR's fault.
 RT> It's time to come off that fence that you've, perhaps inadvertenly,
 RT> impaled yourself on.  Do you, or do you not support interop?  If
 RT> no, then no response is necessary.  If yes, then constructive
 RT> comments as to how this can be achieved would be welcome. 
 RT> Especially since, if the postings you've made are to be believed as
 RT> becoming reality, the "free_jollies_in_Geneva_all_paid
 RT> _for_by_the_taxpayer" brigade have failed.
I support interop.  I will blame USR if they screw up.  I will blame Lucent 
if they screwup.  I will blame Rockwell if they screw up.  
Please note a couple of facts:
1.  Lucent is committed to V.90 interop testing
2.  3Com is committed to V.90 interop testing
3.  ZyXEL is committed to V.90 interop testing
4.  Rockwell has stated they will not participate in interop testing with     
   other manufacturers.
Now which of the above companies is going to produce a chipset that will have 
problems due to a lack of testing?  Which company has stated that USR V.90 
modems will not be able to connect with their V.90 servers at speeds over 
v.34?  Which company flogged K56Plus modem chipsets as K56Flex chipsets?  
Which company failed to do testing when they implemented a proprietary 
modification of the v.42 handshake?
Regards,
       David
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