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to: Brenton Vettoretti
from: Bill Grimsley
date: 1996-05-20 07:19:26
subject: modem

Brenton, at 13:32 on May 19 1996, you wrote to Bill Grimsley...

BG> Did you actually ring and ask if it's possible to disable them with an
BG> undocumented register?  I'd be very surprised if it wasn't.

BV> Yep. I asked. I was told.

That's rather interesting, as V.8 CI tones are not a mandatory part of the
recommendation (yet).  And personally, I find them annoying as well.

BV> Fair-dinkum. What a fuckwit. I've been staying out of this because I
BV> could see that it was going to turn stupid.

BG> Sorry, but it turned stupid a couple of months ago.  :)

BV> Really ? I hadn't noticed :)

Too busy patronising some other BBS, were you?  :)

BV> He's lost the plot and forgotten what the fuck he was trying to do
BV> in the first place.

BG> A "reliable" board, you mean?  True, it's been anything but.

BV> Yes. Now look at what he's doing with his upgrade. He knows 1/10th
BV> of fuck all about hardware, then he buys the cheapest shit possible
BV> from a bloke who doesn't even know the difference between 60-70ns RAM

And to whom he needs to take Xiayi as an interpreter...  :)

BV> and wonders why he has problems. Og. Hang-on. I forgot. He has Rod
BV> giving him advice from Griffith, so everything will be alright :)

IMO, free advice is worth exactly what you pay for it.

BG> Trouble is, BIT make at least 3 completely different V.34 models, the
BG> cheapest one being Rockwell, the dearer ones being rebadged Motorolas
BG> and Microcoms.

BV> No they don't. They *ship* three models.

Semantic wanking.  Anyway, I'm sure they at least make the stickers to
replace the existing ones on their US models.  :)

BV> They only make one model.

They actually make several models, but only one V.34.  Gotcha.  :)

BV> The MyFastModem v.34, which uses the Rockwell chipset but it works.
BV> You're hang-up with Rockwell chipsets is unjustified Bill. It's the
BV> implementation, not the chipset.

The current chipset might be the best to date, but the first 19 revisions
of the 28k8 series were garbage.  Frankly, I've gone right off masked
chipsets, and much prefer generic DSP technology, where ALL of the
controller and datapump code is rewriteable (i.e any bugs can be fixed). 

BV> But, it works and pretty well too.

BG> Why not swap it with Paul's NetComm then?  :)

BV> Yeah sure Bill. In Paul's dreams.

I doubt it.  Paul dreams in source code, doesn't he?

Regards, Bill

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