Hi, Frank!

20 Nov 02 23:45, Frank Vest said to Alex Shakhaylo:

 AS>> Policy may be changed at any moment by sysops' referenda. We need
 AS>> to run just one time networkwide referenda which approves
 AS>> proportional mechanism and then we may change policy annually if
 AS>> you like.

 FV> This has been tried before.

 FV> The ability of such a referenda is only as effective as the number of
 FV> people that agree to be bound by it.

 FV> There are other problems to overcome as well. The Sysops have the
 FV> power in numbers, but the *Cs control the Nodelist. Until this changes
 FV> and each Sysop can control the Nodelist, that is the way it is.

 FV> To do what it appears you desire would require at least 50% of the
 FV> 9000+ Nodes in Fidonet to vote in favor. That would be somewhere
 FV> between 4500 and 5000 Nodes.

I think the number of votes doesn't really matter. Publicity does matter.
We have to be sure at least every NC is aware of the procedure.

 FV> You make this sound so simple. Let me ask the following:

 FV> 1. How do you propose to inform all of the Sysops (Nodes) of this
 FV>    referenda?

By informing their NCs. NCs should be informed by netmail.

 FV>  A. How will you be sure that all Nodes have been informed of the
 FV>     referenda?

No way to be sure. But when a president election happens nobody is sure
all the citizens are informed.

 FV> 2. How will the vote be taken?
 FV>  A. In an echo?
 FV>   1. How will you be sure that all Nodes have access to the echo?

No, by netmail.

 FV>  B. By Netmail?

Yes, by netmail.

 FV>  C. All of the above?
 FV>  D. Some other means?
 FV>    1. If so, explain how.

 FV> 3. Who will count the votes?

RO and VO. May be RO and 2 VO, it can be discussed.

 FV> You see, it is not so simple. :-)

Yep, I see, but I think it is still possible :-)

Bye, Sinc, Alex

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