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to: Matt Mc_carthy
from: Wayne Chirnside
date: 2004-02-22 10:26:00
subject: Re: Old Car

-=> MATT MC_CARTHY wrote to ROY J. TELLASON <=-

 MM> 19 Feb 2004, 04:06, Roy J. Tellason (1:270/615), wrote to JIM
 MM> HOLSONBACK:

 MM> Hi Roy.  (Mostly for Jim)

 JH>> I have this old classic car in my garage.  I need to get it to
 JH>> where it will crank, so I can sell it and we can move to Alabama.
 MM> ------------------------

 RJT> I've heard people talk about squirting oil into the cylinders,
 RJT> but not WD40. I only use that stuff to loosen stuck hardware,
 RJT> things where it's gotten all corroded up and such,  not for any
 RJT> real lubrication.

 MM> If it has been sitting in Florida for 10 years, several if not all
 MM> cylinders will have rust rings around the cylinders wherever the piston
 MM> tops were resting, due to sweating during temperature changes.  It is
 MM> physically impossible that ALL the valves were closed.  That's the
 MM> purpose of the initial crank with WD40 (or kerosene - same thing).  No
 MM> real lubrication is desired until after the rust in the cylinders is
 MM> wiped away.

 MM> Do _not_ use mineral spirits or Varsol, no lubrication whatever!  Nor
 MM> Diesel fuel, too much lubrication to wipe rust away.

 MM> After that, the ATF does a nice job of replacing the WD40 and coating
 MM> the cylinders.

 MM> By the time both those steps are done, normal oil pressure should be
 MM> built up without much bearing loading as the plugs are still out.

 MM> Once the engine has been run, then change the oil to get rid of the
 MM> contamination from the WD40 (or kerosene), and the ATF, as well as the
 MM> 10 year old dirty oil.    :-)

I used WD-40 by the gallon a week on the open bearings on
two water based ink flexographic printing presses.

True it doesn't last long but I hit the bearings three
times a day, morning, mid-day and after washing down the presses
with pressure sprayed water.

Prior to my doing so the machine shop was replacing bearings
and bent shafts on the presses at least once a week,
after I convinced them to buy it it became a once a two month
event at most.
One gallon WD-40 a week some 7 - 14 dollars in 1985, I forget exactly,
as opposed to:
1 45 dollars per bearing replaced in pairs for 90 dollars.
2 Time spent turning down a shaft on a lathe from standard stock
to replace bent shaft.
3 Production time lost, average of 2 1/2 hours
4 Two persons time from the machine shop for time
to repair the printer also 2 1/2 hours for 5 man hours.
5 printing plates usually destroyed by the eccentric print
cylinder motion.
6 Time and materials to replace and assemble destroyed printing plates.

And still they bitched about me using the stuff :-(

It's certainly not a universal lubricant or water displacement
product for all applications but it does have it's niche
uses.
 
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