PE> played the odds.  And lost.  Well, maybe lost, anyway.  We 
PE> don't know how the Banksia performs under proper testing.  We 
PE> know it has trouble talking to Viper's in adaptive answer 
PE> though.

DD> That problem (if it genuinely exixts) would not manifest itself on a BBS 
DD> modem that doesn't ring Vipers though, would it?

I don't get to dictate what other sysops use, but I may want to FREQ
a file from them.

DD> Would you consider it a modem fault if you couldn't raise dial tone because 
DD> the modem was not connected to the phone line?

No.  BFN.  Paul.
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