Hi, Bob!

18 Nov 02 08:13, Bob Short said to Alex Shakhaylo:

 AS>> Fair ? Where more then one person are crowded together we must
 AS>> forget about fairness. Life is life :-)

 BS> We managed well enough to compromise on a fair proposal.  Cooler heads
 BS> usually prevail.  ;-)

I don't think it is fair that only RCs vote for a new policy or policy
amendments. It would be fair if RCs votes were proportional to number
of members of their regions. Our people are disappointed by amendment.

 AS>  BS>> But we must allow for this to complete it's course before
 AS>  BS>> attempting another (whether it passes or not).

 AS>> I believe it will pass. But we'll get a long run for the next
 AS>> amendment too :(

 BS> Anything worthwhile is worth waiting for. Remember... we've waited 13
 BS> years for this one.  

I remember. But I waited for more conceptual changes of this one.

 AS>  BS>> Not as I understand it.  Ward knows it is important to have
 AS>  BS>> as many RC's know about and understand the proposal before
 AS>  BS>> calling an official vote of the RC's.  I believe he is close
 AS>  BS>> to that point now.

 AS>> Why RCs ? Do we have a network where RCs define a policy ?

 BS> At this stage they do, in that they are the group rsponsible for
 BS> deciding whether an amendment proceeds to the balloting phase.
 BS> IE: Initiation.

I think this concept is completely wrong. And I understand why Ward
is trying to pass trough this one. He wants that minority ruled
majority.

 AS>> Do you mean you agree to serve as RO/VO for the poll ?
 AS>> You know, I'm crazy enough to run the poll :-)

 BS> You've been reading FN_SYSOP too much.    We don't need polls
 BS> at this point... we need to let people (*C's especially) that this
 BS> amendment is in progress, and urge them to read and voice their
 BS> opinions on it.

Hm .. You don't need poll, but we (r50 and r46) do need poll, I think.
And we are the real majority of fidonet, you know.

 BS> The best we can do now is get as many translations out to them as
 BS> soon as we can.  I recieved your netmail, and will respond here:
 BS> If you have read the Snoose article I wrote, translate that and
 BS> sent it to your RC, and ask him to cross-post it in his regional
 BS> echos for sysop input, and then netmail Ward with his vote for or
 BS> against a referendum.

I've posted proposal to our regional echo, but one voice of our RC
doesn't matter much according to current practice. And I don't think
that current practice is legitimate one. P4 says about referenda, not
about RCs voting.

Bye, Sinc, Alex

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