From: "Robert Comer" 

The big question will be whether the new firewall helps with viruses and
spyware, and only time will tell on that.  (I sure wish they'd retro the
same fixes to W2K...)

- Bob Comer


"Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
news:4126600a{at}w3.nls.net...
> Yea, I figured it will roll out for all eventually as well.
>
> SP2 has been very solid here so far, and as I said in another thread, SUS
> is
> working well for me.
>
> --
> Glenn M.
>
>
> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
> news:41265ebe$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > Went back with a Win2K machine, and got the old page, so XP is
>> > migrating
>> > to
>> > a different, maybe more intelligent, or maybe just different Update
>> > engine.
>>
>> I've seen that one for a long time, I've had SP2 for quite awhile.
>>
>> It's not really uncommon for Microsoft to update WU.  (We are up to V5
> now)
>> I'd expect and update for older OS's to use it too, but I have no
> knowledge
>> of such a thing.
>>
>> - Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
>> news:41265bb7{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > Oh, and the Windows Update site/pages are now different for XP, at
>> > least
>> > if
>> > SP2 is in place on Pro.  After updating a system using SUS (which
>> > worked
>> > great, BTW), I used the regular Windows Update Web Page, to see what
>> > non-critical updates might be there, and I got a request to allow the
>> > latest
>> > version of WU to download, so I let it come down (new dialogs
> displaying),
>> > and then the page was different, with two options, for two different
>> > styles
>> > of update.
>> >
>> > Went back with a Win2K machine, and got the old page, so XP is
>> > migrating
>> > to
>> > a different, maybe more intelligent, or maybe just different Update
>> > engine.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Glenn M.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> > news:412656da$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > This is changing under our feet as we speak.  Today I took a
>> > fully-patched
>> >> > machine, set to "download, then ask" to
WinUpdate.  It prompted me
> with
>> > a
>> >> > standard "may I?" dialog for the asx
client v5.  I declined SP2, and
>> >> > the
>> >> > pages
>> >> > in MyComputer had already changed to the new style,
and WinUpdate,
>> >> > of
>> >> > course,
>> >> > displayed with the new look.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not surprised. :(
>> >>
>> >> > I also noticed some nice behavior from NIS. (Get
thee behind me;
> shakes
>> >> > rattle).  A full (with reboot) update of NIS this
week gets the WMI
>> >> > client,
>> >> > and *intercepts* the security panel installation,
advising the user
> to
>> > go
>> >> > with
>> >> > NIS instead of Windows Firewall.  Accept that, and
NIS takes over
> fully
>> >> > and
>> >> > properly, as the only firewall.
>> >>
>> >> Oh gak, that's even worse!
>> >>
>> >> - Bob Comer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Frank Haber" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:4126540f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> > >This is all easy to recreate, install WinXP
(anything apparently),
>> >> > >make
>> >> > >sure
>> >> > auto update is turned off from the get-go (not just
prompt)  WU up
> all
>> > the
>> >> > patches available -- no security dialog change, turn
on autoupdate
> and
>> >> > wait
>> >> > for it to cycle, new security dialog.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is changing under our feet as we speak.  Today I took a
>> > fully-patched
>> >> > machine, set to "download, then ask" to
WinUpdate.  It prompted me
> with
>> > a
>> >> > standard "may I?" dialog for the asx
client v5.  I declined SP2, and
>> >> > the
>> >> > pages
>> >> > in MyComputer had already changed to the new style,
and WinUpdate,
>> >> > of
>> >> > course,
>> >> > displayed with the new look.
>> >> >
>> >> > I also noticed some nice behavior from NIS. (Get
thee behind me;
> shakes
>> >> > rattle).  A full (with reboot) update of NIS this
week gets the WMI
>> >> > client,
>> >> > and *intercepts* the security panel installation,
advising the user
> to
>> > go
>> >> > with
>> >> > NIS instead of Windows Firewall.  Accept that, and
NIS takes over
> fully
>> >> > and
>> >> > properly, as the only firewall.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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