-=> Quoting Patrick Ford to Fred Austin <=-
 PF> Hi Fred, 
 PF> 
 PF> On 11 May 98 you wrote to me and said:
 
 FA>> course on the other hand, they most likely trust everyone  in the  real
 FA>> world they shouldn't, used cars salesmen  etc.  :).   
 
 PF>> Most likely? What an extraordinary assumption to make!
 
 FA>     Do not try to  separate yourself  from the  rest of  us.  Everyone 
 FA> gets burned sometimes.  Do  you count  your change  everytime you  buy 
 FA> something or just sometimes or never...  
 PF> Of course everyone gets burned sometimes. I don't usually count my
 PF> change but there are certain shops and certain shopkeepers that I
 PF> don't trust.  
    And  I  though  you  trusted no  one.   Patrick, count  your 
change, a skeptical person would certainly do so.....
 PF>> Hmm. What better way would a government agency have to discredit 
UFO
 PF>> reports than to instigate the creation of hundreds of demonstrably
 PF>> bogus ones? 
 
 PF> No, but many conspiracy theorists have US federal agencies spending
 PF> /millions/ on disinformation campaigns. 
    Disinformation campaigns may exist, but it wouldn't deal with just 
this subject.  The best disinformation campaign is to say nothing,  to 
hold to policy.  And yes there is a policy....
 FA> But now I am beginning to wonder here  Patrick, are  you admitting  to 
 FA> the possibility of genuine ......
 PF> I am suggesting that if the US government did have something to hide
 PF> and uFO investigators were too close to the mark, the simplest way to
 PF> discredit them all would be to create some easily demolished hoaxes
 PF> and so discredit any genuine investigators by association. 
 PF> I will always accept the possibility of anything. I just don't believe
 PF> earthhas been visited by aliens until I see some evidence as good as
 PF> the evidence that there are orcas in the ocean.  
    This has  been brought  forth many  times over  the years  by many 
people.  It has been suggested and it does look that way for  example, 
that NICAP was infiltrated by the  CIA.  NICAP  was originally  run by 
Ex- U.S  Air Force.   Their primary  goal was  to bring  to Congress's 
attention the UFO saga.  They never  made it  there.  Nicap  was taken 
over by a CIA or supposedly  ex CIA  employee.  So  there can  be some 
truth to the idea of discrediting  organizations or  people.  The  big 
question of course is why bother with a subject alleged  to be  pretty 
much a  joke.  Why  wasn't NICAP  allowed to  go before  Congress etc.
If it is all such a joke, why not let people make fools of themselves.
Or  was  it  that  the people  in Nicap  of that  era were  a bit  too 
credible.  Perhaps.   And  maybe  that  is  why  the organization  was 
targeted.  They were targeted by the CIA and eventually dissolved...
    Now as for Orcas, I will not accept your photos  since as  you say 
untampered can mean nothing.  I will  only accept  a real  Orca, or  a 
piece, no  videotape, again  tamperable, your  word, well,  unless the 
Vatican vouches for you, ah, on second thought scrap that, hell, there
is no one,ok, sorry, you have no credibility, but anyways,I'm  sure we 
could stand by the ocean till we see one right> .  And then only 
if we are lucky right?  And then can we trust  our eyes,does  this all 
sound familiar ..........
Happy Trails,
Fred.
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