David Iain Greig  wrote:

> Mohammad Nor Syamsu  wrote:
> >greig{at}ediacara.org (David Iain Greig) wrote...
> >> Mohammad Nor Syamsu  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >You have likely taken lessons from the late Konrad
Lorenz. You might
> >> >want to read the book by Ute Deichmann in which she exposes some
> >> >warcrimes that Lorenz hid.
> >> 
> >> Where in the book?  I have a copy right here, please cite the chapter
> >> where she lists Lorenz's crimes?  I don't remember seeing any listed
> >> when I read it.
> >> 
> >> [moderator's note: This is certainly wandering off topic, but I'm 
> >> willing to see the question answered, thus putting an end to it. - JAH]
> >> 
> >http://www.psyeta.org/sa/sa5.1/sax.html
> >
> >"Long rumored, Lorenz's Nazi involvement has been gradually documented
> >over the past decade. Particularly significant are the recent
> >revelations by Deichmann in Biologists under Hitler. Lorenz not only
> >joined the Nazi party but was also a member of its Office for Race
> >Policy. In 1942, he participated in a study of 877 offspring of mixed
> >German-Polish marriages to determine their potential for assimilation
> >into German culture. Those considered asocial or of inferior genetic
> >value were sent to concentration camps, while others were sent away to
> >be "Germanized" (1996, pp. 193-197, 323)."
> 
> Oh, all right, I'm not claiming Lorenz didn't commit criminal acts, 
> but Deichmann doesn't actually say that Lorenz was involved in 
> sending anyone to concentration camps.  He does say he was involved
> in 'selections' but does not go into details - given the work of
> the Hippius group it is quite possible he was involved in such.
> 
> Do you have a source that actually states Lorenz personally 
> chose people to be sent to a KL?  Deichmann doesn't.
> 
> [moderator's note: I've checked the charter, and it turns out that
> discussion about evolutionary biologists is within the purview of
> the group, so I guess this is "on topic". Oh well. - JAH]

As I recall Deichmann, she explicitly exempted Lorenz from active
participation in selection of camp deportees or other war crimes, but
condemns him as an active and relatively enthusiastic Nazi.
-- 
John Wilkins
[I]magine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, "...interesting
 hole I find myself in - fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? ...
must have been made to have me in it." Douglas Adams, Salmon of Doubt
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