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to: Michiel van der Vlist
from: Roy Witt
date: 2006-06-18 18:30:44
subject: CopyRight Ownership Arguement

18 Jun 06 23:11, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

 MvdV>>> So they just woke up one morning and said to themselves "hey
 MvdV>>> let's see who's account we can cut today.
 RW>> Something like that.
 MvdV> Sure, they do that all the time. They love cutting people's
 MvdV> accounts.

Especially when those people are abusing the service they swore they'd
abide by.

 MvdV>>> This Felten seems a good one for today. Snap!"
 RW>> 'cause he's got all these copyright movies on his system,
 MvdV> Movies? Are you sure there are copyrighted movies on his system?

I was positive, until he password protected them. Still, the titles he
displays must be copyright too.

 MvdV>  I ask because I don't see any, so maybe I am missing something.

You miss a lot, don't you.  I doubt that the movie rights to "The Last
Sumari" starring Tom Cruise, aren't copyrighted. Just to name one.

 RW>> and HEY, look there, he's also got a complete collection of Playboy
 RW>> Centerfold pictures.
 MvdV> Complete? Hardly, the last ten years are missing.

Not according to his "Centerfold" list. 2006-2002=4 years...he's probably
still staining the 2005 and 2006.

 MvdV>>> Sure Roy, sure, that is how it happened.
 RW>> Not likely...

 MvdV> Indeed not likely.

Let's not take it out of context.

 MvdV>  *Very* unlikely I say. Someone put them on the
 MvdV> trail. An you are in the top three on my list of suspects.

I wish that it was me, but alas, I told somebody else about it and wallah.
You see, he's made more than one or two enemies in his stay here.

 RW>> but let's put this shoe on your other foot.

 RW>> Are you advocating that online businesses allow software pirates
 RW>> like Felten to break the law using the services provided by them,
 RW>> which is clearly in violation of their 'terms of service' ?

 MvdV> I say it is wrong for anyone or anything to attempt to impose their
 MvdV> laws on the citizens of another country.

I'd say you are a software and copyright pirate, wishful thinking.

 MvdV> They should leave the law of other countries to those in charge of
 MvdV> enforcing those laws.

Would you prefer that the mafia enforce them?

 MvdV> If that brings them in conflict with their own laws they should not
 MvdV> accept foreign customers to begin with.

If the pirates were to not distribute material belonging to someone else,
the world would be that much better off. Theives should not only be
punished by imprisonment, they should suffer Islamic theft laws.

 RW>> Before you stuff both feet into your big mouth, keep in mind that
 RW>> DynDns.org is a US based company doing business within the USA where
 RW>> such software violations as we've seen on the Felon's website, is
 RW>> against the law.

 MvdV> I am aware of that. I am also aware the as it is a free service,
 MvdV> the customer does not have much of a bargaining position.

As a paying customer, I don't have any more right to violate copyright law
than the freeloaders do.

 MvdV> All that leaves unchanged that we have a snitch in our midst. Or
 MvdV> more than one.

I think the fate of copyright violators should be shooting by firing
squad, composed of those they've stolen from.


Roy
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