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to: Robert Comer
from: Glenn Meadows
date: 2004-08-20 15:44:10
subject: Re: Was my system modified without warning?

From: "Glenn Meadows" 

Yea, I figured it will roll out for all eventually as well.

SP2 has been very solid here so far, and as I said in another thread, SUS
is working well for me.

--
Glenn M.


"Robert Comer"  wrote in
message news:41265ebe$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > Went back with a Win2K machine, and got the old page, so XP is migrating
> > to
> > a different, maybe more intelligent, or maybe just different Update
> > engine.
>
> I've seen that one for a long time, I've had SP2 for quite awhile.
>
> It's not really uncommon for Microsoft to update WU.  (We are up to V5
now)
> I'd expect and update for older OS's to use it too, but I have no
knowledge
> of such a thing.
>
> - Bob Comer
>
>
> "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
> news:41265bb7{at}w3.nls.net...
> > Oh, and the Windows Update site/pages are now different for XP, at least
> > if
> > SP2 is in place on Pro.  After updating a system using SUS (which worked
> > great, BTW), I used the regular Windows Update Web Page, to see what
> > non-critical updates might be there, and I got a request to allow the
> > latest
> > version of WU to download, so I let it come down (new dialogs
displaying),
> > and then the page was different, with two options, for two different
> > styles
> > of update.
> >
> > Went back with a Win2K machine, and got the old page, so XP is migrating
> > to
> > a different, maybe more intelligent, or maybe just different Update
> > engine.
> >
> > --
> > Glenn M.
> >
> >
> > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
> > news:412656da$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> > This is changing under our feet as we speak.  Today I took a
> > fully-patched
> >> > machine, set to "download, then ask" to
WinUpdate.  It prompted me
with
> > a
> >> > standard "may I?" dialog for the asx client
v5.  I declined SP2, and
> >> > the
> >> > pages
> >> > in MyComputer had already changed to the new style, and
WinUpdate, of
> >> > course,
> >> > displayed with the new look.
> >>
> >> I'm not surprised. :(
> >>
> >> > I also noticed some nice behavior from NIS. (Get thee behind me;
shakes
> >> > rattle).  A full (with reboot) update of NIS this week
gets the WMI
> >> > client,
> >> > and *intercepts* the security panel installation,
advising the user
to
> > go
> >> > with
> >> > NIS instead of Windows Firewall.  Accept that, and NIS takes over
fully
> >> > and
> >> > properly, as the only firewall.
> >>
> >> Oh gak, that's even worse!
> >>
> >> - Bob Comer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Frank Haber"  wrote in message
> >> news:4126540f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> >> > >This is all easy to recreate, install WinXP
(anything apparently),
> >> > >make
> >> > >sure
> >> > auto update is turned off from the get-go (not just prompt)  WU up
all
> > the
> >> > patches available -- no security dialog change, turn on autoupdate
and
> >> > wait
> >> > for it to cycle, new security dialog.
> >> >
> >> > This is changing under our feet as we speak.  Today I took a
> > fully-patched
> >> > machine, set to "download, then ask" to
WinUpdate.  It prompted me
with
> > a
> >> > standard "may I?" dialog for the asx client
v5.  I declined SP2, and
> >> > the
> >> > pages
> >> > in MyComputer had already changed to the new style, and
WinUpdate, of
> >> > course,
> >> > displayed with the new look.
> >> >
> >> > I also noticed some nice behavior from NIS. (Get thee behind me;
shakes
> >> > rattle).  A full (with reboot) update of NIS this week
gets the WMI
> >> > client,
> >> > and *intercepts* the security panel installation,
advising the user
to
> > go
> >> > with
> >> > NIS instead of Windows Firewall.  Accept that, and NIS takes over
fully
> >> > and
> >> > properly, as the only firewall.
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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