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to: Robert Comer
from: Glenn Meadows
date: 2004-08-20 15:25:44
subject: Re: Was my system modified without warning?

From: "Glenn Meadows" 

Oh, and the Windows Update site/pages are now different for XP, at least if
SP2 is in place on Pro.  After updating a system using SUS (which worked
great, BTW), I used the regular Windows Update Web Page, to see what
non-critical updates might be there, and I got a request to allow the
latest version of WU to download, so I let it come down (new dialogs
displaying), and then the page was different, with two options, for two
different styles of update.

Went back with a Win2K machine, and got the old page, so XP is migrating to
a different, maybe more intelligent, or maybe just different Update engine.

--
Glenn M.


"Robert Comer"  wrote in
message news:412656da$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > This is changing under our feet as we speak.  Today I took a
fully-patched
> > machine, set to "download, then ask" to WinUpdate.  It
prompted me with
a
> > standard "may I?" dialog for the asx client v5.  I
declined SP2, and the
> > pages
> > in MyComputer had already changed to the new style, and WinUpdate, of
> > course,
> > displayed with the new look.
>
> I'm not surprised. :(
>
> > I also noticed some nice behavior from NIS. (Get thee behind me; shakes
> > rattle).  A full (with reboot) update of NIS this week gets the WMI
> > client,
> > and *intercepts* the security panel installation, advising the user to
go
> > with
> > NIS instead of Windows Firewall.  Accept that, and NIS takes over fully
> > and
> > properly, as the only firewall.
>
> Oh gak, that's even worse!
>
> - Bob Comer
>
>
>
> "Frank Haber"  wrote in message
> news:4126540f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > >This is all easy to recreate, install WinXP (anything apparently), make
> > >sure
> > auto update is turned off from the get-go (not just prompt)  WU up all
the
> > patches available -- no security dialog change, turn on autoupdate and
> > wait
> > for it to cycle, new security dialog.
> >
> > This is changing under our feet as we speak.  Today I took a
fully-patched
> > machine, set to "download, then ask" to WinUpdate.  It
prompted me with
a
> > standard "may I?" dialog for the asx client v5.  I
declined SP2, and the
> > pages
> > in MyComputer had already changed to the new style, and WinUpdate, of
> > course,
> > displayed with the new look.
> >
> > I also noticed some nice behavior from NIS. (Get thee behind me; shakes
> > rattle).  A full (with reboot) update of NIS this week gets the WMI
> > client,
> > and *intercepts* the security panel installation, advising the user to
go
> > with
> > NIS instead of Windows Firewall.  Accept that, and NIS takes over fully
> > and
> > properly, as the only firewall.
> >
>
>

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