=-> Quoting George Erdner to Martin Ridgley, re: "Best" Albums....
GE> Most people interpret the definition of "progressive" to exclude
GE> anything that was commercially popular.
Well, that's not strictly true, but I know what you mean. I usually
interpret `progressive' to mean particularly adventurous, innovative or
experimental music.
GE> If you listen to some of the non-hit tracks on Piano Man, there are
GE> some very innovative orchestrations and unusual selections of
GE> instruments.
True, but it's not at all what most people would label as progressive
because the structure of the songs themselves is fairly standard.
GE> I regard Desparado as progressive for its overall thematic concept.
Well, I think that's stretching the definition just a bit. ;-)
GE> Granted, when a group created a "theme" album in the 60's, that was
GE> something new, and therefore automatically progressive. I don't see
GE> why doing the same thing a decade later would not also be progressive.
It's not progressive precisely because of that. It wasn't a new
concept any more by the time the Eagles got around to it in 1973. But
even if it was a new idea, when most people use the term `progressive',
they're usually referring to the music itself rather than a concept or
thematic idea. And the Eagles are certainly not musically `progressive'
to my ears.
GE> "Yellow Brick Road", like most Elton John albums, is really just a
GE> collection of songs. Most of the songs on YBR are just forgettable
GE> pop songs. But some of the musical structures on "Funeral for a Friend"
GE> are as "progressive" as the later works of ELO or Pink Floyd.
Yeah, I can agree about "Funeral for a Friend". It's one of his more
progressive sounding pieces.
GE> As to whether "Funeral for a Friend" influnced ELO or Pink Floyd, or
GE> merely preceeded it, I do not know.
That album came out in 1973 - the same year as ELO's _On the Third Day_
and Pink Floyd's _Dark Side of the Moon_. Both those groups were at
least trying to experiment with new directions before Elton John did.
Anyway, I can see your points, but I think you're really stretching
the definition of `progressive rock'. From that particular era, the
term `progressive rock' is usually applied more to groups such as
King Crimson, Genesis, and Yes, much more than artists like the Eagles,
Elton John, and Billy Joel.
Cheers,
Martin
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