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echo: batpower
to: Paul Quinn
from: Richard Webb
date: 2009-04-21 13:36:56
subject: Newsgroup (NG) digests

Hi Paul,

On Tue 2037-Apr-21 14:27, Paul Quinn (3:640/384) wrote to Richard Webb:

PQ> I used to rely on a German feller (I think) who ran a service at
PQ> www.news2mail.com, but the web server doesn't respond any more.  The
PQ> link 'pings' okay, so he may get it running again.  His server used
PQ> to dump reams of Apache error logs over the last few months, since
PQ> the ISP/news distribution shake-up, so, I wasn't surprised when his
PQ> service went belly-up.  It was nice for a while getting one-for-one
PQ> NG posts in email.

PQ> Now I'm using Google Groups but they only distribute digests in
PQ> email.  :( 

Not surprised, newsgroup service is much poorer than it was. Hate to say
it, and not quite topical here but google is a
real problem with the spammers in a lot of those I read
because they don't filter them out at all, in fact many
originate from google groups.
curious how many spams you see for knockoff designer
clothing and shoes made in China in those google digests,
because we sure see 'em in the raw newsgroup feeds.


PQ> Yeah.  I've been lucky in the past as I've been picking moderated
PQ> (usually rules against mime-attaches or HTML) or source read-only
PQ> newsgroups (NASA). 

THen you wouldn't see a lot of that.  About the only
moderated ng I was reading was rec.radio.broadcasting, and
participation there has been poor over the last couple
years.  IT was a much more lively group, lots more good
discussion when Bill PFeiffer moderated it, but he died back in 2000.

 PQ>> Has anyone tried this process yet?  Or, anything similar perhaps?

 RW>  I'm doing such a thing with some of the periodical
 RW> information i post in the ls_arrl echo, ham radio bulletins
 RW> and the like.  I use a splitting function to split those
 RW> emails into parts.  YOu could do the same with your digests.

PQ> I like the way you think.  ;-)

Glad I was able to help you out here .

 RW> I'm using postit to post these to my squish bases as
 RW> echomail, but have used other autoposters.

PQ> I usually use the one that came with FastEcho, mostly for daily
PQ> logfile posts, but I do favour a doo-hickey called "Mpost" that has
PQ> some unique features.  I use it all the time for automated weekly
PQ> nodelist FREQs to the RC13 (Mike Luko in New Jersey) and for
PQ> auto-reply posts to my NCs when they submit their weekly nodelist
PQ> segments.  :-)

 RW> I'll post an example of what I'm doing to post amateur radio newsline
 RW> weekly when received as an email.  IF this helps set you on the right
 RW> course let me know.

PQ> Cool.



PQ> Okay.  Mmm... I use a special email address and a Fido email handler
PQ> called "Transnet" (which has its own Fido address) to do that sort
PQ> of thing.  (It currently does the NG digests but as I've said that
PQ> method is limited by the JAM storage problem due to the length of
PQ> the consoidated posts.)  I don't see the posts till I browse my
PQ> local echo.

I've got that here, and will eventually set it up, but I"ve
only the one email address and would be a pita.

 RW> From my mail reader batch:

PQ> Time to pull out some munchies...

 RW> :newsline

PQ> [ ...I understood about a fifth of that... ]

LEt's see if I can help you out with this.
FIrst we're looking for the line which has (tm) in it, as
that's the start of the actual text.  THen we stuff that
line number into an environment variable as in ...
type newsline.txt | find "(TM)" /i /n >> getstart.txt
:: remove the brackets around the line number using chg.
chg /i getstart.txt /s [91] /r ""
chg /i getstart.txt /s [93] /r [32]
nset first=$1 < getstart.txt
del getstart.txt
sed -n %FIRST%,$p > newsline.out
del newsline.txt
ren newsline.out newsline.txt
::remove some mime strangeness which happens when the fellow forwards me
amateur radio newsline.
chg /i newsline.txt /s =20 /r ""
echo. >> newsline.txt
:: append advert telling folks to be aware that urls may not :: show up
correctly and thanking the poster, etc.
type c:\robotext\newsline.ftr >> newsline.txt
move newsline.txt c:\staging
:: split it up into pieces and post from this point.

 RW> call postnews.bat

 RW> NOw we go into postnews where we find out how many pieces we have of
 RW> newsline.txt
YEp, newsline.txt is now newsline.001, newsline.002, etc.
sO, we find out how many files we have, stuff that number
into environment variable, branch and post.

 RW> FInland's work as well to do this.  LET's have a quick look see if
 RW> there are any other dependencies you'd need .

PQ> Ahh, yes.  I had a similar idea for mine; I had in mind to create an
PQ> index of "From:" line numbers, and then run from that.  Great
PQ> minds... and all that.  :)  Nah, I figure the only =exotic= software
PQ> I'll need is fgrep.  My current toolbox of (mostly Horst's) utils
PQ> will do nicely, besides.

YEp, that can work.  I"m just straight cutting, but you can
index the from: lines and stuff them one at a time into env
var and let sed do the heavy lifting.

PQ> Sure did.  It means I'm on the right track.  Thanks for your
PQ> insights. 

GLad I could be of help to you for a change.  YOu've sure
steered me the right direction a couple times this last
couple of years .

Regards,
           Richard
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