Mohammad Nor Syamsu  wrote:
>greig{at}ediacara.org (David Iain Greig) wrote in message
news:...
>> Mohammad Nor Syamsu  wrote:
>> >
>> >You have likely taken lessons from the late Konrad Lorenz. You might
>> >want to read the book by Ute Deichmann in which she exposes some
>> >warcrimes that Lorenz hid.
>> 
>> Where in the book?  I have a copy right here, please cite the chapter
>> where she lists Lorenz's crimes?  I don't remember seeing any listed
>> when I read it.
>> 
>> [moderator's note: This is certainly wandering off topic, but I'm 
>> willing to see the question answered, thus putting an end to it. - JAH]
>> 
>http://www.psyeta.org/sa/sa5.1/sax.html
>
>"Long rumored, Lorenz's Nazi involvement has been gradually documented
>over the past decade. Particularly significant are the recent
>revelations by Deichmann in Biologists under Hitler. Lorenz not only
>joined the Nazi party but was also a member of its Office for Race
>Policy. In 1942, he participated in a study of 877 offspring of mixed
>German-Polish marriages to determine their potential for assimilation
>into German culture. Those considered asocial or of inferior genetic
>value were sent to concentration camps, while others were sent away to
>be "Germanized" (1996, pp. 193-197, 323)."

Oh, all right, I'm not claiming Lorenz didn't commit criminal acts, 
but Deichmann doesn't actually say that Lorenz was involved in 
sending anyone to concentration camps.  He does say he was involved
in 'selections' but does not go into details - given the work of
the Hippius group it is quite possible he was involved in such.

Do you have a source that actually states Lorenz personally 
chose people to be sent to a KL?  Deichmann doesn't.

[moderator's note: I've checked the charter, and it turns out that
discussion about evolutionary biologists is within the purview of
the group, so I guess this is "on topic". Oh well. - JAH]

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