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to: Michiel van der Vlist
from: Roy Witt
date: 2006-06-14 19:14:50
subject: CopyRight Ownership Arguement

14 Jun 06 19:18, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

 MvdV>>> Let's wait for the court ruling shall we.
 RW>> That could take years.
 MvdV> I am not in a hurry.

Expediency is the name of the game in this case. Stopping pirate bay is
number one priority. When they fall, other heads will roll soon after.

 MvdV>>>>>>> So we are back to attempting to impose US
laws and US moral
 MvdV>>>>>>> values on others.
 RW>>>>>> You have nobody to blame for that but your own
government(s);
 RW>>>>>> those who've signed treaties with the US government that
 RW>>>>>> enforce US copyright law.

 MvdV> If the treaties make US copyright law enforcible in other countries
 MvdV> that signed the treaty, then the same treaty makes Dutch copyright
 MvdV> law enforcible in the US.

Perhaps...

 MvdV> Hmmm, I like that, if you are right, I *can* sue Shannon Talley for
 MvdV> stepping on my rights after all....

Like you've been told, you have no case, so you will be laughed out of
court.

 RW>>>> Just because you can't handle the truth, doesn't make it
 RW>>>> bullshit.
 MvdV>>> It is bullshit becuase it isn't the truth.
 RW>> I suppose they're enforcing Svedish laws then.

 MvdV> Of course they are. at least that is what they think. We shall wait
 MvdV> to see if the court agrees with the prosecution.

Oh, the court makes the decision, even though it's tried by jury?

 RW>> Wouldn't it be better  for the software pirates in those countries
 RW>> if your governments hadn't signed such treaties? Then there wouldn't
 RW>> be such a controversy over it, even here.

 MvdV> With 20/20 hinsight it may indeed have been better not to sign
 MvdV> international aggreements with the US.

That would work both ways. Then you wouldn't be bitching about it.

 MvdV> They always explain eveything to their own advantage and very
 MvdV> seldom hounour their part of the deal.

That probably depends on which side of the toast is buttered.

 MvdV>>>>> What citicens of other countries do in their own country is
 MvdV>>>>> none of your bussines.
 RW>>>> I don't care what you think about it.
 MvdV>>> That is a two way street.
 RW>> Then I'm free to voice my opinion with no more bickering from you.
 MvdV> You are free to voice you opinion. Amd then I am free to voive my
 MvdV> opinion on your's.

And we're both free to ignore each others voiced opinions.

 MvdV>>>>> I wish them good luck. Snitching is not very popular in
 MvdV>>>>> Germany.
 RW>>>> It's becoming more popular as we speak.
 MvdV>>> Dream on.
 RW>> Well, let's see if the snitching website in Germany goes away. If
 RW>> not, it must be true.

 MvdV> They probably wont go away entirely. It will just fade into
 MvdV> oblivion. Like BSA.

What you perceive as 'fading away' may be the silence of the
prosecuted...too proud to tell everyone about their sentences.


Roy
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