-> Wrong.  People like me *bring* them to the masses, after they can no
-> longer be found at retail stores!  If it weren't for people like
-> myself - and other
-> collectors or investors, then you could never even *hope* to find a c
-> say, Sleeping Beauty, right now?  If retail was the *only* avenue for
-> to find Disney movies, then once a title went on moratorium, you'd be
-> the water for at least the next 5 years, no?  But you don't have to
-> worry about that, do you?  Because your friendly neighborhood Disney
-> collector/investor has them for you, just for the asking.
Well, you see, Disney has the copyright ownership. They have the legal
right to withdraw their products at any time. Once they withdraw their
products you do not have any legal right to purchase that product until
the copyright owner releases it again.
->
-> And besides, I don't make the rules when it comes to "collector"
-> pricing anyways.  It sounds to me like you don't like the whole
-> concept of "collectorism" Kit. There *are* people, you know, who
-> feel that the fact that a Silver Dollar, say, from 1790, should
-> still only be worth a dollar, and that those jerks who want $3000.00
-> for it "just 'cause it's old" are just "opportunists".  This
-> concept, if one believed it, would be a scathing indictment of the
-> entire notion of collecting and of collector values a markets.  Are
-> you advocating that as your viewpoint Kit?
No, I NEVER mentioned coins, which, of course, are NOT copyrighted.
Let's stay on topic and discuss copyrighted Disney video tapes. I
believe in people having collections as long as they are legally
obtained. When a person buys a video tape from you it is not legally
obtained. You and the other person have violated the law. I don't believ
in that kind of collecting.
Again, you seem to think that buying a video tape is the same as buying
a movie. It isn't. You are buying the right to VIEW that movie in your
own home. That's it. You don't own the movie. You have no right to
resell it.
-> Most families can't afford to pay "collector pricing" for very many
-> things. It sounds to me like you think the whole notion of assigning
-> "collector value" to something is just plain immoral.  Maybe you
-> feel that the whole "collecting establishment", whether we're
-> talking records, coins, stamps, movies, cars, - anything you can
-> name - and the whole idea that there's a whole market o there that
-> accepts and pays for things at collector prices - is  bogus and
-> shouldn't exist.  But most people don't think that way,  "collector
-> mentality" is likely to continue long into the futur the millions of
-> families who can't afford the treasures they'd love only collector
-> markets didn't price them out of the market.
You keep changing the topic in order to make me out as some kind of
murky, evil villian. I am talking merely about re-selling copyrighted
video tapes illegally.
-> If you had an object, say, an antique radio, which you found out was
-> a really *RARE* 1939 Filco model, that only 5 were ever made, and
-> each one is worth well over 10 grand (to the collector market you
-> seem to hate, of course) - would you sell it for less?  If I wanted
-> to buy that radio worth 10K from you for 5 bucks, becuase I liked it
-> and it looked pretty, would you sell it to me for 5 bucks?  If you
-> answer no, then you have no right to criticize ME for selling Disney
-> movies, once they are on moratorium, for collector  pricing!
->
You keep bringing in non-vopyrighted materials - and it DOESN'T make
your case.
-> I do not feel angered or attacked.
Good. This is about a legal concept - NOT about personal attack. Many
people break this law (especially Disney fans) and seem totally
oblivious to the fact that what they are doing is illegal and harms the
original copyright holder. Disney has a right to distribute and withdraw
video tapes and discs as much as they like - and they have a legal right
to keep YOU from thwarting their efforts in this. I wrote my message to
you because movie companies are cracking down on this sort of activity.
People think if they own a video they have the right to sell it. They
think it's like a rare coin or something. Even you said many times that
you think it is like that. It's not. The coin has no copyright. It is
legal to sell an re-sell it for whatever you can get. The video tape
call only be resold if you erase the copyrighted motion picture on it.
But then nobody would want the blank tape or pay your collector's prices
for them.
I honestly do not think that you ever thought about this or knew that it
was illegal. Now that you know it will be interesting to see whether you
future behaviour reflects your new-found knowledge.
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