AA> I trust that the knee injury and broken toe are not the result of
 AA> teaching Ben not to jump.  (?)
Nope.  The knee has been acting up for the past several years.  As for the 
toe, I fell down the stairs... :(
 AA> But if he's not responding well to the knee-jerk technique, maybe
 AA> you're not doing it properly.   The action has to be swift,
 AA> forcefult, and best when you can target the chest area.   Another
 AA> thing, don't say no WHILE you do the technique.  You should just do
 AA> the knee-thing immediately.    Then emphasize the "sit" that you
 AA> said he's much better at - then praise him.
I'll add the sit command to it, and see how that goes.  I do it in the manner 
that you described, though.  I read about it in a book I got about a year 
ago, and am also going to apply a few other tricks from in there to cure him 
of some more stuff. ;)
 AA> Monster was a jumper for the 1st three years of his life.  But when
 AA> I moved home, and started the basics with him, he learned that
 AA> jumping was not appreciated - fast.  Now all he does (and I don't
 AA> blame him since the 1st three years of his life consisted of
 AA> jumping) is jump up trying to touch his nose to my nose.  :)   He
 AA> does it without any part of his body brushing up against mine. 
That must be cute!  BTW I don't remember what breed you said Monster was.  I 
know he's a big guy, but can't remember much more.  I know I could probably 
go check out my own echo (it should be in there *somewhere*) but I'm too 
lazy. ;)
 AA> But if I'm not careful, and I bend down a bit to pet him, he MAY
 AA> get the urge to jump.  When that happens we have a collision, and I
 AA> get a sore jaw.  :( 
I can imagine!  I have to be careful Ben doesn't try to nip my face when I 
bend down to him.  I've gotten him cured of most of his nipping, but he 
sometimes does try to grab a nose...
Chris
eb011@freenet.carleton.ca
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