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echo: locsysop
to: Paul Edwards
from: Rod Speed
date: 1996-06-13 09:54:16
subject: EOT too far...

PE> No, I meant it was the same as in "failure to follow specs" is
PE> "failure to follow specs".  Only the MSGID is PCable in the above.

RS> Its completely fanciful to claim that less than absolutely
RS> immaculate adherence to FTS-0009 on the MSGID is in fact PCable.

PE> I don't know if that is true.

And everyone else knows damned well its true.

PE> The only information I have (from the FTSC Chair) says to
PE> raise a PC, not "determine how many systems are affected" etc.

If you are referring to that message of Nugents, it
doesnt actually SAY that at all, and in fact actually
specifically refers to 'serious problem for the network'

Yes, there is no doubt that thats the right approach with a failure
to follow 'the specs' which is causing serious problems. That is NOT
the same thing as PCing everything that you claim isnt being done as
per 'the specs', PARTICULARLY when you have such a bizarre interpretation
of what 'the specs' require. You try PCing every example of one of THOSE
and see how long you last on being excessively annoying yourself.

RS> If it was a trivial problem that did not 'cause a
RS> problem for the network' you could in fact be told
RS> to go and fuck yourself and flushed right out of Fido.

PE> Yes, that could happen.  Or the reverse could happen.

Pigs arse it could. You try PCing examples of where a particular
message flouts the 3 year rule in FTS-0009 or even PCing every
single occasion on which you notice an origin line which has a
dud address in it and see how long you last.

PE> It's up to the whim of the *C's, and they have been known to come
PE> up with some of the most mind-boggling decisions known to man.

Yes, but there isnt any real doubt about what would happen to you if you
mindlessly PCed every single example of a less than absolutely immaculate
message you notice flowing the the echoes, PARTICULARLY if they dont actually
cause any problems whatever on your system. You will find you get the bums rush

RS> Say you could prove that the same serial
RS> number in 3 years rule was breached.

RS> Whether you can grasp that or not.

PE> Whether you can grasp that it is not your interpretation
PE> (or mine) that counts, it is the whim of an unknown *C.

Fraid not, anyone with any sense knows that if you keep repeatedly PCing
on trivia like that that doesnt actually cause the network problem, you
will eventually get shafted when you piss enough people off.

PE> Just between us two we've got two radically different opinions.

Even thats not right, you dont actually mindlessly PC every single
blemish you ever see, you appear to have realised what could very
well happen to you if you did and have enough sense not to.
@EOT:

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