PE> Before I was telling you to put your own money where your mouth
 PE> is, instead of trying to involve me in your hair-brained
 PE> schemes. Now I am still saying the same thing, except I have
 PE> emperical evidence that you don't know how to make things. 

  I won't use *your* money if you'll give me a refund for *my* money
you pissed against the wall on Collins subs.

  In fact tariffs do not cost money, they save money. Import-replacement
products create jobs, wealth, lower taxes, and technology that bleeds
into things like the design of Collins subs (rather than buy the
bloody design from Germany).

 BL> No tariff protection, dickhead... a small Oz manufacturer being
 BL> sent to the wall by a large Japanese corporation. Our capital
 BL> investment became worthless.

 PE> I bet the end result is that we have as cheap R/C's as we can
 PE> get by local manufacture.

  You lose.

  Pricing history is interesting, seen recently in TV... and RAM. 

  First, the price is high ($400). Foreign competition dumps on the
market at $300 and the locals trim the fat to match it. Then the
imports hit $200 and locals drop off. Then the price returns to $300,
and over time to $600... or whatever the market will bear, or can be 
imported from a less cost-efficient country than the one who destroyed
the local market.

  Instead of imports competing with local manufacture at $300, they
compete against other imports (USA, for R/C) which are in the same
situation as the ex-local manufacture, obove the original price.

  The prices of electronic equipment are easy to compare because the 
retail price is fairly constant with inflation. A 1970 electronics 
dollar is the same as a 1996 dollar (more or less). A 22" TV for
instance has been $600 since 1975... except for the market variations
I explained above.

  We saw it in Radio/control and TV when locals dropped off, and we
saw it in RAM, where there never was local manufacture to keep the
bastards honest. We saw entry-level RAM selling for $800 when now we
see the *real* price is $150.

  Markets work on competition, but you do not understand that markets
are manipulated to maximise profits. Without local manufacture to give
genuine competition, the importers charge whatever they like. They
maximise price rather then let an open market minimise it. Theory is
not worth shit internationally.

 PE> Poor old Bob. For the last 3 years of my 10 years of working,
 PE> I've been involved in a private-company tender to another
 PE> private company, and been successful at THAT too, and the best
 PE> he can do is tell me that this 30% of my career in PRIVATE
 PE> ENTERPRISE WITHOUT TARIFFS is "feeding at the public trough".

  You operate in a *protected* enviroonment selling finally to the DoD.
Tariffs are just one of many ways of protecting a market. You are so far 
out of touch that you don't even know what a market is.

 PE> Poor old Bob, grossly covering up how the only success he ever
 PE> had was when he was feeding at the public trough with his
 PE> jacked-up heap-of-shit TVs.

  My major success was as a professional punter. Now *there* is a free
market!

Regards,
Bob
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