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echo: locuser
to: Paul Edwards
from: Rod Speed
date: 1996-06-26 07:35:00
subject: Compliance

DN> and don't give them cause to become defensive; e.g. threats right at
DN> the start get nowhere very fast and usually escalate for no good cause.

PE> No threats at the start.

RS> Pigs arse there werent, you said right
RS> from the start that it was a PCable offense.

PE> Crap.

RS> Fraid you did, the FIRST time you said
RS> anything to the NODE, you did just that.

PE> That's hair-splitting.

Nope, you in fact did PRECISELY what Nugent was saying
is positively counterproductive. He's right too.

PE> He likely saw the first message, certainly saw the
PE> second message, he knew they were about stuff from
PE> his node, the THIRD message was where I mentioned PC.

Faking. In your FIRST message to him you did PRECISELY what
Nugent was saying was positively counterproductive. Obviously
the possibility of PCing a point doesnt arise, you cant.

PE> Just a simple pointing out that messages from your system were out of spec.

RS> You havent actually established that they WERE

PE> Read the specs yourself.

RS> No thanks, it aint as rigidly specified as you claim, just like the
RS> presence of 0x01s aint anything like as rigidly specified as you claim.

PE> Fraid so.

This sort of mindless bullshit convinces absolutely no one at all,
PARTICULARLY when EVERYONE is telling you that you have fucked that
up and the FTS says nothing remotely like as absolute as you claim.

PE> :-)

RS> No point in grinning yet, you aint established
RS> that it was 'causing problems for the network'

PE> Yes I have, one person is enough.

RS> Pigs arse it is. If your code is mindlessly anal or just badly
RS> written and falls over because it uses a fragile alg on the PATH
RS> data, thats YOUR problem when the format aint rigidly specified.

PE> Fraid not.

RS> And even when the format *IS* rigidly specified like with the date,
RS> just because that caused YOU as one person a problem that DOES NOT mean
RS> that you get to demand that everyone in the entire net cleans up their act
RS> forthwith with you furiously PCing every breach of 'the specs' you can find

PE> Fraid so.

More mindless bullshit that convinces absolutely no one. And when you
have to resort to this, its dead bloody obvious that you cant think
of anything useful to say about the stuff that blows your silly claim
totally out of the water, so you go for the mindless bullshit instead.

RS> Fraid Fido doesnt actually work like that, it will
RS> in fact just flush you out of the system if you try that.

PE> Whether it does or not, I don't know.

Pity its dead bloody obvious to everyone else Paul.

PE> It's CERTAINLY what the ZC said in black and white.

Pity you so utterly misrepresent what he ACTUALLY said.
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