Carey Bloodworth wrote in a message to Craig Ford:
CF>Not quite true, non-USR V.32terbo modems were just unable to attain the
CF>21.6Kbps signalling rate possible between two USRs, they worked
CF>quite well a the 16.8 and 19.2Kbps signalling rates.
 CB> I didn't anywhere say USR didn't also support standard 'official'
 CB> v.32terbo.  (And I didn't think I implied it, although judging from
 CB> the number of replies I've got, a lot of people erroneously infered
 CB> it.) 
Ummmm.... Carey, perhaps you would care to read what you wrote?  The words 
that read "making their version proprietary and unable to work with other 
v.32terbo modems" certainly sound like a statement that USR's version of 
v.32terbo would not allow other manufacturers' v.32terbo implementations to 
conenct.
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DB>Now name the company that originated v.32terbo.
 CB> AT&T.  I don't remember what year, but it was definitly AT&T and
 CB> not USR or Hayes or Rockwell.  And they made their improvment
 CB> public domain, so anybody could implement it. USR made their own
 CB> modifications to it, making their version proprietary and unable to
 CB> work with other V.32terbo modems, but v.32terbo itself was done by
 CB> AT&T.
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 CB> Only that, USR didn't create v.32terbo itself, that AT&T did.  And
 CB> that although USR did indeed 'create' their own extended v.32terbo,
 CB> that it was not the same v.32terbo that everybody else used. That
 CB> USR's extended version was incompatible with anyone elses
 CB> v.32terbo.  USR extended it, but didn't change its name (how about
 CB> v.32terbo+...?), which would imply that the version they did create
 CB> (and publicize) _was_ v.32terbo.  The same v.32terbo that everybody
 CB> else was using.  It wasn't.  And that you could thank USR for the
 CB> v.32terbo that 'everybody' was using.  You couldn't.
USR's v.32terbo was fully compatible with everyone else's v.32terbo at all 
link rates supported by v.32terbo as created by AT&T.  About the only 
evidence I could find that USR claimed credit for the creation of v.32terbo 
was the lack of mention of AT&T in the Courier terbo manual combined with 
placing USR in front of their proprietary protocols while non-proprietary 
protocols were listed with the ITU-T/Bell/MNP/TIA-EIA labels.
USR-HST, USR-HST Cellular, USR-V.32 terbo, ITU-T V.32 bis and so forth.
Regards,
       David
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