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date: 2007-01-17 21:50:18
subject: Re: [OS2HW] Good ol` ThinkPad 600?

Hi Ed,

Ed Durrant escribió:
...
>   The most likely place for this documentation will be in the driver 
> package - most likely in a "Readme" file.

I wasn't being sarcastic :) I couldn't find a file inside the "Audio
Features v2.07" explaining the driver syntax.

...
> If your card is a PCMCIA card you will need to install "socket
services" 
> to be able to talk to the card. If it's a cardbus you don't normally 
> need socket services. This is where this now gets "tricky" depending
...

"Tricky". The OS/2 side is a hell of stupidity, bad installers, bad 
applications and bad documentation.

Went to Win'98 and the card was detected inmediately. I picked the 
drivers from the right location and I was running and connected to my 
server in under 5 minutes. I'm very experienced in Windows deployment 
and never saw anything go so smooth. In fact it was te only thing that 
went smoothly with this system but that's another story.

I got the latest PCCard stuff from Hobbes, and I happened to install the 
package to some non-default path. After fixing the installation manually 
(!!!) I couldn't get the card even to be properly detected. I'm not 
saying that I did everything right, either, but I run this same package 
in a newer laptop so I think it has to be the configuration. Any 
pointers to "OS/2 PCMCIA configuration explained" ?

I'm really frustrated, especially since I got the card to work (it is 
listed in V.K.'s RTL8139 driver docs as Conceptronics XYZ because I was 
the successful tester) once on that newer laptop. It was so long ago 
that I can't even remember how, though.

And to make things worse, now I've lost sound in both OS2 and W98, with 
the interesting oddity that it is SAID to be working in both systems 
(drivers detect it, and every test reports the card to be working, but I 
can't hear anything).

So I'm beginning to think of letting the laptop rest in its leather bag :(

Any last suggestions?

> Some of the more modern cards from D-Link, I believe work with the 
> Genmac wrapper technology, the same code you will need for Wireless if 
> you wan't to go to 54Mb/s - there are some 802.11b (11Mb/s) cards such 
> as the Lucent Technologies Orinoco "Silver" card that is
PCMCIA and has 
> OS/2 drivers.

OK, noted for future reference. 11Mb/s ahould be enough for now if I 
really decide not to give up.

> I think you have two PCCard slots in the TP600 - you can use one PCMCIA 
> card and one cardbus, you can also use one PCMCIA that needs Socket 
> Services and one that doesn't like Socket services by adding an
"ignore" 
> switch to the IBMSS-somenumber-depending-upon-model.SYS driver file.
> 
> If you are not experienced with configuring PCMCIA - you will most 
> likely hit problems. This technology is far more complex than that in 
> current laptops.

The technology may be complex, but the interface to it under OS/2 is 
complete madness :(

...
> DVD burner - forget it - you wont get one that will fit a Thinkpad 600. 
> They didn't exist when this system was available.
> 
> WiFi I've mentioned above.

ok, we'll check it in the future.

> One possible better route for you, depending on whether this system will 
...
> a USB 2.0 card and attach and external USB DVD burner, hub and external 
...
> Thinking this through, however, I have to ask if your better pproach 
> might not be to buy a more recent laptop with most if not all of these 
...
> equipped, the T40 series is USB 2.0. On these models everything apart 
> from the dial-up modem has OS/2 drivers.

Yes, you're probably right. I'll check it as well, but I'd hate to have 
two expensive paperweights, so let's make the first one run and we'll 
worry about the second one later.

Thanks for your help again.

Regards,
Alfredo.


		
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