*** Quoting Felipe T. Dorado from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***


FTD> Thank you :)

 CS> There is much discussion.

FTD> ;)  I can assure you I didn't fail to notice that one  ;)

No one can!  But at least little of it is flamer type.

 CS> Most of it is technical in how to correctly list an ION in the
 CS> nodelist so that they can be contacted via IP methods.
FTD> Ok.
FTD> I remember an article in the snooze talking about mailmovers. It said
FTD> something about "serious" versus "hobbists"
mailmovers and the stabili
FTD> and durability of either.
FTD> A dedicated POTS line was something of a convenient filter for the acc
FTD> of the list. Let's hope whateveer method is used now and in future con
FTD> that bit, I mean, stability of the nodes. Since, *who nowadays would s
FTD> a server just for Fido? ...

Well, I'm not sure just which article as there have been so many!


FTD> And, what about that paragraph in the policy about pvt nodes needing t
FTD> justify their not having a phone number to ring to?  Was it not Frank
FTD> Vest who said the policy had been done away with long ago?

Not really done away with, just that PVT nodes per policy have slightly
¨different restrictions and requirements.  For ION's listed as PVT due to
the ¨FTS specs, it's a new game and now it's more under question than
earlier as it ¨doesnt really 'match' what P4 says PVT nodes are for.  Turns
out some zones are ¨more restrictive than others on what contitutes
'benefit to Fidonet' when ¨assigning a PVT listing.  Z1 seems the least
restrictive of the 6 zones on ¨that.

FTD> It appears to me that many seem to have no idea that a policy is an _a
FTD> ...  This network is an agreement.

Yes, and we've found we dont always agree although that is a fairly recent
¨finding for most.

 CS> nodelist format with some new tools to generate a nodelist.  That
 CS> take time but I have a feeling might actually happen eventually.  Most
 CS> discussions on that have us using a dual node-stub, one traditional and
 CS> one expanded then merged somehow with a tool by those who want the
 CS> extended information.                                       xxcarol

FTD> That sounds good for the network. I hope it comes about soon and ends
FTD> this divide between pots and ions so we can work for the betterment of
FTD> our hobby.
FTD> All this talk about nodelisting ...  mmmm, no-one had the nerve to fou
FTD> a Fidoinet? ... No, it does not seem so.  Or, is it that hard to use i
FTD> directly and let good old Fido die in its bed in peace and quiet ... m
FTD> years in the future?

Grin, the main effort seems to be to integrate the 2 types of sysops
happily so ¨that both have the essentials they need and bring them together
as they are in ¨some places of the world.  It's kinda scarey to me
personally that some are so ¨worried about ION's being the same as POTS
nodes.  To me, they are the same and ¨only have a problem in that many are
not listed with correct information in the ¨nodelist so as to be able to
contact them.

Work seems to be progressing on that though and alot of listings have been
¨fixed up with the right information now.
                                       xxcarol

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