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to: Richard B.
from: Robert Comer
date: 2007-03-28 12:14:44
subject: Re: Server Virtualization Anyone?

From: Robert Comer 

It's certainly an interesting concept, more along the lines of Application
Virtualization rather than traditional machine virtualiztion.

I have to really wonder about the isolation between the VE's, and with no
hardware virtualization it pretty much makes it useless for supporting
legacy OS's, not to mention you only have one OS period, so no multiple
versions like I do in VPC or Virtual Server.  I can see how it *might* work
in your situation but I really don't know what's under the covers of
virtuosso.  The cost looks a bit daunting, but that may be offset by the
possible less OS licenses you'd need, but again, I have no idea how
Microsoft might treat a VE.

I'm a little surprised they don't have a Windows 64-bit version, but for
your tasks, I don't see that as a problem except you might push your memory
usage. (actually that might end up being a big problem, 32-windows OS's
large memory usage isn't exactly what I'd call speedy)

It looks like you can download a version (maybe it's a time bombed
version), so maybe I'll request a copy and try it on my home machine to see
how things work.  I'm just upgrading my home machine to 4G with a faster
video card today, but the only server OS I run right now is longhorn
64-bit, so I'd have to install another OS. (not a biggie)

fwiw, the next version of Microsoft's Virtualization products, called
Windows Virtualization, looks *really* interesting, definitely on par with
VMWare ESX server (ESX is pretty costly, but it's the best of breed right
now).  Windows Virtualization will run under Longhorn Server 64-bit...

--
Bob Comer


On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:22:00 -0400, Richard B.  wrote:

>On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:07:45 -0400, Robert Comer
> wrote:
>
>>Yep, you could do all that and more, though I really wouldn't suggest
>>your AD to be virtualized. (speaking of the VMWare and Microsoft
>>products, don't know anything about the other.)
>
>If you have time take a quick look at this:
>
>http://www.swsoft.com/en/products/virtuozzo
>
>- Richard

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