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echo: educator
to: CARL BOGARDUS
from: RON MCDERMOTT
date: 1996-12-12 08:05:00
subject: Exit Exam???

-> Of the three, the GED proposal has encountered the most
-> controversy -- so much so that Gov. William Weld (R) and state
-> Board of Education chairman John Silber have proposed a
-> compromise plan.  Some educators complained that 
-> the GED sets too low
CB>Well, here we go again---
CB>The public demands quality graduates--
CB>Schools test---
But no exit exams and no national test....
CB>Do we get quality graduates? No--testing does not produce 
CB>quality, testing only finds defects.
You've been repeating this mantra for some time now, and 
with all due respect to Mr. Deming, I don't think that his 
theories on manufacturing necessarily carry over to 
education.  Specifically, I find it hard to accept that
having exit exams wouldn't improve the quality of our
graduates.  If nothing else, it would encourage students to
take the toughest courses instead of ditching them for easy
grades in lesser courses.  Does Mr. Deming take into account
that in education, the product interacts with the process
and can be influenced in its (the product's) actions?  When
making a tv, this isn't a factor ....
CB>Yuck--I hope they drop the idea of an exit test--won't work.
To a certain extent, NY has exit exams in courses called the
Regents exams... They have been "working" for a good many
years now... I have to dispute your, and Mr. Deming's 
sweeping pessimism on the subject...
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