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to: Geo.
from: Gary Britt
date: 2007-04-18 10:10:36
subject: Re: adobe weasels play dirty

From: Gary Britt 

OK, that makes sense.

Gary

Geo. wrote:
> I hate javascript in forms, there should just be a flag you set to clear
> a form on open instead they use javascript. When I saw how this was done
> I explored their other features and found they included far too much
> power in what you can do with this feature. I don't know if foxit's
> javascript capabilities go that far. Need to find some time to explore.
>
> Anyway, the reason I changed to foxit was not for safety, it was because
> it's not a 50mb pig like acrobat reader has become.
>
> As far as safety goes, htm is not safe and I use it because I have to,
> pdf is no different.
>
> Geo.
>
> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
> news:46259690{at}w3.nls.net...
>> So you program javascript into your own pdf's???  Doesn't this make
>> you in support of having javascript for pdf files??  I thought you
>> were against that?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> Geo. wrote:
>>> Once you fill in a form, the browser will remember what text you had
>>> in what fields, if you open the form again they are all there. You
>>> can set an action in a form on open to reset the form, this solves
>>> the problem. It's a javascript action. All my forms use it.
>>>
>>> Geo.
>>>
>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>> news:4624ccf9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Whenever I hope a document that is fillable in foxit, I get the
>>>> warning about needing javascript or it may not work properly and
>>>> asking me if foxit should download and install the javascript plugin
>>>> for foxit.  I just hit NO and the form comes up and it can still be
>>>> filled in.  I haven't encountered a problem with fill-in forms and
>>>> no javascript yet, but I don't do fill in pdf's all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Gary B
>>>>
>>>> Geo. wrote:
>>>>> No, in foxit you need to have it installed to be able
to fill out
>>>>> pdf forms. Obviously unsafe but there is no other
choice as far as
>>>>> I can tell.
>>>>>
>>>>> Geo.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>> news:46241210{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> Don't you have javascript disabled or not
installed in Foxit?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geo. wrote:
>>>>>>> Ok so I'm using foxit reader. Today I go to
open a PDF file
>>>>>>> someone sent me
>>>>>>> and I'm greated with a dialog box that reads
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "This PDF form requires a newer version
of Adobe Acrobat.
>>>>>>> Although the form
>>>>>>> may appear to work properly, some elements may function
>>>>>>> improperly or may
>>>>>>> not appear at all. Press OK to initiate an
online update or see
>>>>>>> your system
>>>>>>> administrator."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and I'm like wtf is this? Why would foxit tell
me to download the
>>>>>>> adobe
>>>>>>> reader?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a pdf created with Adobe Designer 7.0,
and the weasels are
>>>>>>> including
>>>>>>> these 3 javascripts in the documents now, the
javascript executes
>>>>>>> upon
>>>>>>> document open, pops up a window with the above
message, clicking OK
>>>>>>> downloads and installs Acrobat reader even if
you are running a
>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>> make pdf reader..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if (typeof(this.ADBE) == "undefined")
>>>>>>>    this.ADBE = new Object();
>>>>>>> ADBE.LANGUAGE = "ENU";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_string_Title = "Adobe Acrobat";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_string_Update_Desc = "Adobe
Interactive Forms Update";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_string_Update_Reader_Desc =
"Adobe Reader 7";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Reader_string_Need_New_Version_Msg =
"This PDF file requires
>>>>>>> a newer
>>>>>>> version of Adobe Reader. Press OK to download
the latest version
>>>>>>> or see your
>>>>>>> system administrator.";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Reader_601 =
"This PDF form requires a
>>>>>>> newer version
>>>>>>> of Adobe Reader. Although the form may appear
to work properly, some
>>>>>>> elements may function improperly or may not
appear at all. Press
>>>>>>> OK to
>>>>>>> initiate an online update or see your system
administrator.";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Reader_Older =
"This PDF form requires a
>>>>>>> newer
>>>>>>> version of Adobe Reader. Although the form may
appear to work
>>>>>>> properly, some
>>>>>>> elements may function improperly or may not
appear at all. Press
>>>>>>> OK for
>>>>>>> online download information or see your system
administrator.";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Viewer_601 =
"This PDF form requires a
>>>>>>> newer version
>>>>>>> of Adobe Acrobat. Although the form may appear
to work properly,
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> elements may function improperly or may not
appear at all. Press
>>>>>>> OK to
>>>>>>> initiate an online update or see your system
administrator.";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Viewer_60 = "This
PDF form requires a
>>>>>>> newer version
>>>>>>> of Adobe Acrobat. Although the form may appear
to work properly,
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> elements may function improperly or may not
appear at all. For more
>>>>>>> information please copy the following URL
(CTRL+C on Win,
>>>>>>> Command-C on Mac)
>>>>>>> and paste into your browser or see your system
administrator.";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Viewer_Older =
"This PDF requires a newer
>>>>>>> version of
>>>>>>> Acrobat. Copy this URL and paste into your
browser or see your
>>>>>>> sys admin.";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Reader_5x = "This
PDF form requires a
>>>>>>> newer version
>>>>>>> of Adobe Reader. Without a newer version, the
form may be
>>>>>>> displayed, but it
>>>>>>> might not work properly. Some form elements
might not be visible
>>>>>>> at all. If
>>>>>>> an internet connection is available, clicking
OK will open your
>>>>>>> browser to a
>>>>>>> web page where you can obtain the latest version.";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Reader_6_7x =
"This PDF form requires a
>>>>>>> newer
>>>>>>> version of Adobe Reader. Without a newer
version, the form may be
>>>>>>> displayed,
>>>>>>> but it might not work properly. Some form
elements might not be
>>>>>>> visible at
>>>>>>> all. If an internet connection is available,
clicking OK will
>>>>>>> download and
>>>>>>> install the latest version.";
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Viewer_7x = "This
PDF form requires a
>>>>>>> newer version
>>>>>>> of Adobe Acrobat. Without a newer version, the
form may be
>>>>>>> displayed, but it
>>>>>>> might not work properly. Some form elements
might not be visible
>>>>>>> at all. If
>>>>>>> an internet connection is available, clicking
OK will download
>>>>>>> and install
>>>>>>> the latest version.";
>>>>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>>>>> if (typeof(ADBE.Reader_Value_Asked) ==
"undefined")
>>>>>>>    ADBE.Reader_Value_Asked = false;
>>>>>>> if (typeof(ADBE.Viewer_Value_Asked) ==
"undefined")
>>>>>>>    ADBE.Viewer_Value_Asked = false;
>>>>>>> if (typeof(ADBE.Reader_Need_Version) ==
"undefined" ||
>>>>>>> ADBE.Reader_Need_Version < 7.0)
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>    ADBE.Reader_Need_Version = 7.0;
>>>>>>>    ADBE.Reader_Value_New_Version_URL =
>>>>>>> "http://cgi.adobe.com/special/acrobat/update";
>>>>>>>    ADBE.SYSINFO = "?p=" +
app.platform + "&v=" +
>>>>>>> app.viewerVersion + "&l=" +
>>>>>>> app.language + "&c=" +
app.viewerType + "&w=" + "XFA1_6";
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>> if (typeof(ADBE.Viewer_Need_Version) ==
"undefined" ||
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_Need_Version < 7.0)
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>    ADBE.Viewer_Need_Version = 7.0;
>>>>>>>    ADBE.Viewer_Value_New_Version_URL =
>>>>>>> "http://cgi.adobe.com/special/acrobat/update";
>>>>>>>    ADBE.SYSINFO = "?p=" +
app.platform + "&v=" +
>>>>>>> app.viewerVersion + "&l=" +
>>>>>>> app.language + "&c=" +
app.viewerType + "&w=" + "XFA1_6";
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> if (typeof(xfa_installed) ==
"undefined" || typeof(xfa_version) ==
>>>>>>> "undefined" || xfa_version < 2.0)
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>    if (app.viewerType == "Reader")
>>>>>>>    {
>>>>>>>       if (ADBE.Reader_Value_Asked != true)
>>>>>>>       {
>>>>>>>          if (app.viewerVersion < 6.0)
>>>>>>>          {
>>>>>>>             if
(app.alert(ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Reader_5x, 1,
>>>>>>> 1) == 1)
>>>>>>>               
this.getURL(ADBE.Reader_Value_New_Version_URL +
>>>>>>> ADBE.SYSINFO,
>>>>>>> false);
>>>>>>>             ADBE.Reader_Value_Asked = true;
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>>          else if (app.viewerVersion < 7.0)
>>>>>>>          {
>>>>>>>             if
(app.alert(ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Reader_601, 1,
>>>>>>> 1) == 1)
>>>>>>>               
app.findComponent({cType:"App", cName:"Reader7",
>>>>>>> cDesc:
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_string_Update_Reader_Desc});
>>>>>>>             ADBE.Reader_Value_Asked = true;
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>>          else
>>>>>>>          {
>>>>>>>             if
(app.alert(ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Reader_6_7x, 1,
>>>>>>> 1) == 1)
>>>>>>>               
app.findComponent({cType:"Plugin", cName:"XFA",
>>>>>>> cDesc:
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_string_Update_Desc});
>>>>>>>             ADBE.Reader_Value_Asked = true;
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>>       }
>>>>>>>    }
>>>>>>>    else
>>>>>>>    {
>>>>>>>       if (ADBE.Viewer_Value_Asked != true)
>>>>>>>       {
>>>>>>>          if (app.viewerVersion < 7.0)
>>>>>>>             app.response({cQuestion:
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Viewer_Older,
>>>>>>> cDefault: ADBE.Viewer_Value_New_Version_URL +
ADBE.SYSINFO, cTitle:
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_string_Title});
>>>>>>>          else if
(app.alert(ADBE.Viewer_Form_string_Viewer_7x, 1,
>>>>>>> 1) == 1)
>>>>>>>            
app.findComponent({cType:"Plugin", cName:"XFA", cDesc:
>>>>>>> ADBE.Viewer_string_Update_Desc});
>>>>>>>          ADBE.Viewer_Value_Asked = true;
>>>>>>>       }
>>>>>>>    }
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>
>

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