"John Edser"  wrote in message
news:avnski$aum$1{at}darwin.ediacara.org...
>
>
> PF:-
> I am following this thread with interest.
> And am close to becoming impressed! :-)
>
> Hailed be Srinvas (a really clever, both mathematically inclined and not
too
> "reality recognition reduced", guy it seems!) if he - hopefully IMO -
> succeeds where everyone else has failed!
> That is, succeeds in budging an as hard-to-bend brain as John Edser's into
> working in a direction of _more realistic_ (not longer just _anti_
> gene-centric, but human individual-centric) evolution theoretical biology!
>
> JE:-
> My "hard to bend brain" just keeps telling me
> that the only mountain we are all climbing is
> Darwin's individual centric one and NOT Hamilton's
> gene centric pile of pebbles. I Can and have, discussed
> the positive merits of Darwinian individualism until
> I am blue in the face. It has no impact on the hordes
> of gene centric natives mining Hamilton's hill.
> You have to try to talk to the natives in
> their own language. Hence my "anti gene-centric"
> stance.
>
> Where is this other
> "more  realistic mountain"? Perhaps you mean I am
> using  the wrong shovel, or perhaps the gold I dig
> up, e.g. fitness mutualisation, is just dirt?
> Peter, until you actually take of your decorative
> shirt and do some hard deductive work,
> I do not understand what the gold is you are looking
> for, let alone where to dig for it on your side of
> the mountain.

Great reply!

Perhaps I should shut up and let Srinvas keep on wetting your appetite for
spotting selective significances of such sorts so that you are released from
having to respond in a routed reflexive way that keeps you blind to any
explanatory suggestions beyond the Darwinian fact, and fait accompli
frequencies, of fecund flora and fauna.

Your individual-centric stance was seductive to me to start with, but soon I
sadly realized how unrealistically restrictive it was.

But your interaction with Srinvas will perhaps turn into a theoretically
fertile affair!

Good Luck!

Peter
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