Bob Short wrote in a message to Thom Lacosta:

 BS> I'm not coloring anything, Thom.  I shoot from the hip.  

Of course you color things...we all do, and to deny it would be a cruekl
joke to play on folks who don't have an in-depth grasp of human nature.

 BS> Every time
 BS> someone comes up with a disparaging or disheartening comment, there
 BS> is a chance that someone else may lose faith in the process.  Look
 BS> at what's happening with Z2 right now.  Do you think that what Alex
 BS> is describing is conducive to the success of our proposal?  I don't
 BS> think so.  His extracurricular efforts may do more harrm than good,
 BS> just as comments like "it'll never happen" or " It
can't be done",
 BS> or (in your words) "don't hold your breath".

It strikes me that in this entire discussion, you leave little room for
those who disagree with the "movement".  Where they may state
questions, criticisms, you appear to cast blame on them.


TL>  BS> & vote on this proposal according to it's merits.  This is best
TL>  BS> accomplished bt y refraining from negative commects on how long it
TL>  BS> takes.  :) 
 BS>  
TL> Translated to "Bob wants it his way...and no one can comment on it
TL> if they 
TL> disagree until Bob gets his way."

 BS> Oh, puleeeeeze... replace "Bob" with "those dozens
of nodes who
 BS> worked on the proposal",  and strike the rest.  I have no qualm
 BS> about comments regarding the content of the proposal, just the
 BS> painfully apparent length of time it's taking to see it through.

Personally, I think it's very valuable for folks to argue the points and in
some instances point to the nagatives of the issue.  Your wanting folks not
to make negative comments on how long it takes flies in the face of
evaluating the proposal on its merits.

 BS> Believe it or not, I am as apprehensive as you are on how long this
 BS> is taking... just not as adamently outspoken about it. 

 BS> One might think you were among the detractors.  ;-)

In many ways I am...and I have been and will continue to verbalize my thoughts.
 BS>  
TL> Get a life Bob...put a time cap on it...and if it doesn't work, admit 
TL> that it's a dead issue.

 BS> The cap is not mine to place, and I won't give up on this until
 BS> either Ward or the RC's shoot it down.  So far, I see is
 BS> unaccountable delays, but nothing that indicates failure.

I'll buy that...but please stop telling people they can't/shouldn't make
negative comments.

cya,
thom
baltimoremd{at}baltimoremd.com
http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/ 

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