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to: JIM COLE
from: ERIC DE WACHTER
date: 1997-06-11 09:34:00
subject: Engine Failure V-1,V-R

Salut Jim, tu vas bien ?
Jim Cole et Richard Brice discutaient gentillement … propos de "Engine 
ailure
V-1,V-R"
 JC> You are correct here but it could also hold true for the Captain as 
 JC> well.  It's the mental state at this point.  In the Simulator it's "OK, 
 JC> he's going to chop the engine at V-1 so I am thinking about it and I'm 
 JC> ready".
That's true, but i think it should be so for every take-off and landings:
be prepared. That why when i'm rolling for TO i always remind me
"attitude 12 degrees" (flying 737) which is the most important if an engine
failure occurs at V1 or later. Rudder input is (for me) an automatic reflex
to stabilize the aircraft in roll and heading.
 JC> I don't know the full extend of the conversation but to clarify.  I 
 JC> think you should always have your feet close to the rudders.  Use them 
 JC> no but close yes.
You're right, and even when the Cpt is taking-off.
I will always remember simulator training session, where the instructor
puts an engine flame-out after Vr. I don't know why but the Cpt (flying),
gave input on the wrong rudder, the airplane was not less than 60ø degrees
bank.
I had my feet close to the rudder and finally correct it.
In the reality, i would not wait so long, but it's was only a training.
If it occurs in a simulator while you are prepared for such a thing, it can
occur in the reality too. So my opinion is that both pilots have to be
prepared.
 JC> It is extremly important for the Pilot not flying to be prepared to 
 JC> assume flying duties for whatever reason.  You can't do that if you are 
 JC> relaxed and maybe sitting on one leg (a joke).  Takeoff and Landing is 
 JC> an extremly critical phase of flight.
Yes and if you know that 1 engine failure occurs for minimum 5 pilot
incapacitations, you will also be prepared to take control when you are
 not flying.
 Au plaisir, hein ! 
 Eric ;-> 
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