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echo: fdecho
to: Dran Draggore
from: mark lewis
date: 2016-04-02 09:35:02
subject: Who is running FD as Telnet Mailer?

01 Apr 16 23:56, you wrote to Elmo Jensen:

 >> Yes, for example I can connect to Janis, and get correct mail session
 >> answer,  but she denied filerequest on her 1:1/0 address, so it was
 >> refused. I have  tried too to 2:230/152, Gert, and I can connect, but I
 >> can see on the screen, I startup his BBS, before I get redirected to
 >> his mailer. When I get redirected  to the mailer, it think a lot, and
 >> then drop the carrier. The same on 2:230/0,  Benny - my uplink! So i'm
 >> not sure if it is my setup there is okay, and theres  there is wrong,
 >> or different.

 DD> You said you connect to Gert's BBS, which then redirects you to the
 DD> mailer ? -- that does not sound right. Usually it is the mailer that
 DD> answers first.

it depends, really... some bbses can operate in shell-to-mailer mode...
they either answer the connection and shell to the mailer or they shell to
the mailer straight away and then accept a hot line after the mailer
answers the line and exits back to the bbs... pcboard and other similar
bbses answer the line and then switch to the mailer when they realize the
connection is not a human user...

 DD> If you are using a virtual modem with FrontDoor, then the system you
 DD> are connecting to should also be using a virtual modem. The rule is: a
 DD> virtual modem connects to another virtual modem - and a telnet
 DD> 'client' connects to a telnet 'server'.

telnet-to-telnet, yes... but one could have a virtual modem that does ssh
or rlogin so they'll also need to connect to the proper end on the other
side... a virtual modem is just a shim between software that is expecting
to talk to an analogue modem and a different connection type that speaks
another language/protocol... kinda like a media convertor (aka cable modem,
dsl modem, fiber optic to cat5)...

 DD> If you are using a virtual modem to connect to a BinkP server, then it
 DD> will not work. If you use FrontDoor to connect to another frontend
 DD> mailer that is not FTN compatible, then it will not work. You should
 DD> ask Benny what mailer he's using -- the safest frontend mailers to use
 DD> with FrontDoor are D'Bridge and BinkleyTerm (because they are
 DD> oldschool like FrontDoor).

very true...

 >> Yes, I used BNU in the start of my modem days, but then I try ADF, and
 >> get better performance with that, and since then I have used ADF.

 DD> ADF is all you need these days. I only use BNU for nostalgia reasons.
 DD> Also, no point using X00 or anything that requires 'config.sys'(unless
 DD> you're running DOS/w3.x/w9x).

if you rename x00.sys to x00.exe, you can load it from the command line...
no config.sys necessary... x00 was specifically written to be able to do
this ;)

 >> I have tried to install OS/2, but get errordump when the system restart
 >> after  install :( Maybe the HD or the pc is too fast! Have you
 >> filerequest on some of your lines? Where FD is online? So I could try
 >> to request from your system, and see how it work against you. Okay?

 DD> Bleh. Do not waste your time with OS/2 :)

why not? it works perfectly well over here... it has done so since OS/2
Warp 3 Connect came out... we also don't have a bunch of scridiots trying
to tear it down ;)

)\/(ark

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