NA> "Retarded" is very subjective... 99% of the world thinks we're ALL nuts
 NA> for  what we're doing here.

I tend to agree with the 99% lol.

You seem like you know how to properly run a VLAN and insulate yourself. Good on you. I can't say the same for other sysops necessarily...real security requires dedication, as the risk landscape changes daily. My personal preference is to dump this responsibility onto people that run big datacenters leasing VPS slices where a core part of their business relies on preventing nefarious actors from exploiting things.

I mean, if I wake up tomorrow and my wife bought a new toaster that hooks up to the internet, to me, that's a risk...I had to convince her why we don't hook the Samsung SmartTV up to the internet. And my firewall is completely closed.

I also suffer a bit of paranoia due to some of the work I did in the past on behalf of the government while abroad.

In any case I didn't mean to insult anyone for doing things the way you do, it was more a response to how TJ was phrasing things which got under my skin a bit.

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