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echo: indian_affairs
to: SONDRA BALL
from: JIM CASTO
date: 1997-02-19 04:04:00
subject: Re: what are we? part 1

 -=> Quoting Sondra Ball to Charles Murray <=-
 SB> I basically operate under the premise that laws that are not immoral
 SB> should be obeyed; so one *would* have to have a way of determing
 SB> whether a law was immoral before deciding to disobey it.  If everybody
 
 PMFJI
 
 The bottom line.... Laws are put into place by people that have been 
elected
 by the majority of the community to represent them. It doesn't matter if we
 are talking about the county, state or federal government. Anyone that 
chooses
 to violate a law (good, bad or indifferent) is engaging in an unlawful act
 against the _rest_ of the community.
 That's why there are laws that say everyone that want's to drive in MY
 community MUST have a driver's license and a licensed automobile. Because it
 is MY community. If you don't want to have a license, the solution is VERY
 simple. Don't drive in MY community. Ancient societies used to exile people
 for not obeying the "laws" of the "community". Nowadays, we just pay taxes
 to hire people (from our community) to enforce the laws our elected
 representatives make.
 If you own a million acres in the middle of nowhere, there is no law that 
says
 you MUST have a license to drive on your own property. And if you want to 
 avoid paying the gas tax? Raise pigs and run the vehicle on methane gas. 
 SB> obeyed.  But if you are going to disobey a law, because you consider
 SB> the law to be wrong, you need to accept the fact that you are
 SB> committing a criminal act, and be willing and ready to pay the price of
 SB> that criminal act. 
 
 Again, that is a criminal act against the "community", NOT the government.
 CM>     Some say they are already building camps in the west to hold people
 >     who see the light of reality . I can not believe you as a reasoning
 >     person equate travel with crime .
 SB> I do not equate travel with crime.  But if travel ever becomes against
 SB> the law, then it *would* be a crime to travel.  That doesn't mean,
 SB> however, that I would stop traveling.  I might decide, instead, to
 SB> become a criminal.  It would depend on how I viewed the situation at
 SB> the time.
 
 There is NO law against "travel". One can walk, ride a mule, etc. The "law"
 (established by the "community") is regulating the _mode_ (i.e.; automobile)
 of travel.
 SB> As for those camps, rumor has it they are already in place.
 
 What camps? Where? In the west? West of where?
 Jim
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