JS>Unfortunately, Dave, there are those who become citizens not because
JS>want to be Americans, but because it allows them to petition for the
JS>remainder of their family that is back home.
 
MA>       John I read carefully your posting and the impression given is
MA>that when someone obtains citizenship this immediately means that all
MA>sorts of family members will almost immediately arrive with visas.  We
MA>both know this is an inaccurate impression.
MA>       My wife and I were married four years before we were able to
MA>navigate the maze of the INS and even obtain her residency.  That
MA>required several thousand dollars in expenses including a trip to
MA>Central America to clear though the State Department and numerous phone
MA>calls to Tijuana to try and get our records forwarded to Tegucigalpa
MA>after being sent to the former in error.
Mike:
What am I going to do with you? This reply is an excellent
illustration of your personal bias in any matters involving 
immigration.
A. When I posted my response regarding chain migration, I believe I took
the pains of making it clear that chain migration takes YEARS, not months
or days. That there are some countries where 4th preference visas are
no longer available since there is such a great backlog that it's 
impossible for someone to get a visa in their lifetime. 
B. I have no idea how long it was from the time you got married to when
you filed the I-130 petition with INS. Ergo, I don't know if part of 
the four year "odessy" with INS was your fault or not.
C. Had your wife entered, and here's the catch Mike, LEGALLY, she 
could have adjusted rather than having to return to Honduras to get
her immigrant visa.
This would have alleviated the visa processing time and lag time needed
to send the papers to the American Consulate in Tegucigalpa and THEIR 
processing time. Again, this is due to the fact that your wife violated
the Immigration Law originally by entering without inspection. Which,
by the way, is a Misdemeanor prosecutable under Title 8 of the United
States Code. 
D. The volume of applications for I-130 petitions and adjustment of
status, not to mention naturalization, is totally overwhelming. There
are so many District Adjudications Officers and only so many hours in
a work day for them to interview people and adjudicate applications.
The need for interviews, sadly to say, is the direct result of the
abject fraud that occurs with immigration applications. Marriage
fraud being chief among them. However, recently, a vast increase
in naturalization fraud has been experienced, especially with English
proficiency exams and history exams being fudged by "designated testing
centers", read that to be private agencies under contract to the INS.
And we can't forget all those criminals who "inadvertently" forgot about
their criminal records or deportation records. I have personal knowledge
of one family that is playing the system like a violin, or fiddle. 
The fact is Mike, that because of all the fraud we are experiencing and
the need to interview, we can't process all the applications filed in 
a timely manner. Does this tell you something? How about, we're being
overrun?
How about we need a five year moratorium so we can clear the backlogs,
get our breath, and have society able to absorb the crunch we have 
experienced with this mass migration which is adversely affecting our
social infrastructure?
But getting back to the original post, you are incorrect in your 
statement that I made it sound "simpe" and instantaneous. It "ain't so"
Mike.
John , jnsampson@ibm.net 
 "To find reasonable doubt, one must first be capable of reason."
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